Selective rage
Selective rage
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13588273
Selective rage
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13588273
There were plenty of people mad about most of those.
Me looking at Idris Elba as Heimdall: damn good, give me more
Idris is my man-crush. I wanted him to be Bond
Love him in any roles where he uses his regular British accent. Let's not make him do Baltimore accent ever again. In fact, probably best we forget that happened l tbh
If copyright didn't last forever, anyone could make a little mermaid movie with the main character as whatever race they prefer. Its been 35 years, time to release this into the public domain.
I'm sorry, but romani is just another word for white. If we make Italians and Greeks white, then romani are white too.
I know it's hard to keep track of every different eurotrash breed, but please make an effort in the future
Romani come from India you dumbfuck
Hmmm.... I do mind that they look the part so you can at least recognize them.
Avatar the last airbender movie was the worst offender of this,
because at least one cast member looked like another character from the show.
So the 1st one I have no issue with.
2nd needs a tan and spraying his hair to gray/white,
5th needed more red hair like this:
https://images8.alphacoders.com/127/1272798.jpg
The 3rd and 4th ones look ridiculous though.
I don't know from which movies they are but
If #3 has an iconic beard, then #3 needs a beard and some better clothes if those clothes are iconic as well.
#4 is a no.
A certain group of people care a lot about this, the rest of the world isn't as insane, that's all.
I dislike it no matter the color for most things. There are plenty good actors that would match a characters ethnicity but they decide to go with the opposite of that. Now I’m all for representation and stuff, but when Hollywood does this it either feels forced or ignorant
It can often feel forced. That doesn't mean it always is
I don't really care about this though tbf, most comic book heroes have multiple incarnations often with gender-swap and different ethnic groups, Ariel on the other hand is a character from a traditional European fairy tale. It bothers me more to see Tom Cruise as "the last samurai" than some random modern comic book character with slightly off skin color.
Tom Cruise wasn't the last samurai in that film. He witnessed the last samurai, Katsumoto, played by Ken Watanabe.
It's confusing because Tom Cruise is on all the posters.
I'm angry about all five castings. Same about the casting of an african-american as Heimdall in the MCU - What would be whiter than a nordic god? But using while actors for non-white roles is the vast majority of miscasts.
I mean in the MCU Asguardians are just a separate race that have no reason not to be diverse. The only reason they're considered Norse gods is because Scandinavia is where they happened to do things on earth.
Oh it’s even worse than that: they hate live action Ariel because she's “ugly”
sex+race racism is horrifically nasty, yet more common and more “accepted” in my experience.
Also, I will leave this here:
Fortunately, it’s just hypothetical, that live action doesn’t actually exist…
As to your picture, everyone hated that.
Would they today, though?
I feel like there would be conservative 'backlash against backlash' over racebending cast.
do you remember the original animated "Lion King"?
all the voice actors for the Hyenas were black stereotypes...
I'm sure I'm missing something super obvious, but can you explain the image?
The big panel is a bit clearer:
Basically the original heroes were vaguely Tibetan (Aang) or dark-skinned Inuit, but for the movie (that doesn't exist) they quite consistently color coded the good guys as white and the bad guys as darker skinned; the total opposite.
Compare the skin tones of the actors they cast for the live action compared to the original anime
I'm sorry but if you think that Zuko is not a hero, you must have sopped watching Avatar after the third episode.
Casting a brown skinned woman as Snow White will never not be silly.
It's similar to Jack Reacher, it's made very clear in the books he's a tall, physically intimidating person. And they cast Tom Cruise to play him.
"Uh Mr Drake"
Would be better if they actually made new movies with different cultures stories instead of just remaking the old shit too.
They do this outrage bait on purpose though. American society is brain rotted and we need a cause to support or hate. Even in children's movies.
who gives a piss, like genuinely
beyond her name, is there any reason why snow white should be white?
and, like, even then. "brown skinned". Zegler is super pale, you’re just mad she’s not a WASP
anyways fuuuuuck disney for a bunch of reasons, but "casting POC for traditionally white roles" is not one of them.
Grown men having strong opinions on how Disney Princesses should look will never not be silly.
There's no reason for it to matter to them.
it's even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel's human version race, they just assumed it lol.
and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it's a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?
I don't know if anyone outside Australia knows Fern Gully... But anyway, years ago, watching that movie with friends I casually suggested that possibly fairies in Australia would more likely be indigenous looking than white, and got told off for "making everything political". And by migrant friends.
One of whom used to get quite offended at any implication that they were anything other than Australian.
To be fair, skin tone usually develops due to exposure to the sun. If anything, mermaids probably are tanned on top (backs) and pale on their stomachs. Like great whites
It's old rage bait sir but it checks out
People definitely made fun of Johnny Depp as a native American.
Made fun of, yes, but there was no outrage, calls for boycotts, etc.
Who would do it? The crazy, easily offended, superficial and impulsive Native Americans? There's only one tribe that gets fuming mad and violent about this kind of ridiculous shit...
I remember both of those, in addition to the ridicule. Just wasn't as loud.
he's like 1/8 or 1/16 native, so despite being far removed from indigenous people and culture white americans have a tendency to see any claim to cultural heritage as valid, so the outrage wasn't as big as normal
Nah i'm upset at all of em, either cast the actual race of the character or you are too cheap to put in the effort.
I don't know how to break this to you, but mermaids don't exist.
If the character's ethnicity isn't directly relevant to the story or its message, why does it matter? People of all kinds of heritage live just about anywhere in the world, so a character being from some country doesn't have to determine their ethnicity.
It's a damn movie. Cast whoever is gonna play the character best. I don't care of brothers and sisters were different or if men played women or women player men.
But I'm used to the theater were roles don't have such a large talent pool.
More so, stop casting people just for their name.
How dare they cast the role of Caribbean princess as a young black girl? /s
(I know the stories are Danish or something but Disney put these films in tropical island settings)
If they didn't have double standards then they wouldn't have them at all
Marvel were big on Romani character = witch in the 70s and 80s.
Both whitewashing and turning a ginger character black are time honored traditions.
turning a ginger character black
iirc, a lot of the times in old media creators would use red-haired people as stand-in for minorities, basically if they wanted to make a character BIPOC, but the studio wouldn’t let them, they’d make them red-haired instead
got this from hearsay so take it with a grain of salt. but if it’s true, it’s nice that the original visions can be fulfilled now!
(and even if it’s not true, more BIPOC in movies is never a bad thing, even if it comes at the cost of red-haired characters, which whatever it’s not like we’re systematically oppressed)
edit: also I’ll note that Ariel is still red-haired in the remake
The one's labeled tibetan and romani, what are those? I'm familiar with the rest
Ancient One and Scarlet Witch
Both from marvel, the wise one from dr. Strange and the scarlet witch.
I get the point of the meme and all that, but that whole thing about calling out Scarlet Witch for being played by someone that’s white is kinda troublesome to me.
Wanda’s dad is Magneto, a Jewish white guy. Her mom isn’t mentioned much but she’s Romani, which is its own ethnicity; and ethnicity is not a skin tone.
Americans are the only ones who regularly equate skin colour with ethnicity.
Yea, many other cultures associate it with wealth/class. They are so much smarter.
one of the many areas most Muricans are ignorant about
Yeah Romani in Western Europe are often white passing or straight up white, and mircrakagovia or wherever they are from is quite obviously an eastern Europe analogue.
Scarlet witch is probably white, maybe a bit swarthy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Maximoff_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)
Eastern Europe more specifically