As usual, my timing is impeccable. I just downloaded 22.1 last night lol
- Good job!
oh god i'm nervous i just switched from windows to linux in march and this will be my first big update :o
- I've been running Mint since 17.x and have only had one upgrade fail in all that time. You're very unlikely to have a problem, but backup your system just in case!
  
  ooh i have timeshift automatically set up anyway :)
  
  You got people like this guy and then you got me who had to reinstall mint 3 times because of upgrade and compatibility issues and then I eventually gave up on it 😭😭
  And that happened in the span of one month too.
  Eventually switched to Kubuntu and now I use Arch btw WITH BTRFS 🤤
  
  Or use something like TimeShift and set it to automatically create backups.
  Before I switched to the boringly stable Bazzite, TimeShift was a godsend. I was able to learn so much about Linux just by not having to worry about fucking up my install because whenever I did, it was trivial to rollback.
- I adore the Linux community because it's collectively so nice. If you cock it up, someone here will help you fix it.
  
  so far it's been so good! i think the only issue i've had with linux is that it will randomly freeze everything (usually if I try to load a tab in librewolf/chrome that's a chonky boi or if i'm in zoom) on my laptop and i have to hard reset and i can't figure out how to search for it because i really don't know what causes it :(
- I'm in the same boat! Gonna update tomorrow when I'm not sleepy
I ran it it remotely logging in from RustDesk while working. Jellyfin (caddy), Copyparty, and my Pihole all run on that machine and it finished and all continued working after it restarted.
Time estimate: 10 mins
Sorry for a noob question, but is there a recommended flavor (xfce/mate/cinnamon) for a 2010 era laptop, or is there no reason not to use cinnamon?
- I’d say RAM is going to be the largest performance bottle neck for a desktop environment on an older machine. 4gb of RAM? don’t bother with cinnamon, you’ll likely have a much better experience with Mate or XFCE. 8gb is about where I’d even bother to test out cinnamon.
- Hard to say without specs. I'd go with XFCE and then MATE right behind it. With a lower end PC, I doubt it could handle the fanciness of Cinnamon and still run software
- You should probably take a look into puppy Linux, if low specs. Otherwise anything with xfce should run better on it.
  
  I ran Puppy off of a 4gb USB for almost 2 years when the hard drive crashed in my desktop years ago. As far as the "it just works" OS's go, it was fantastic.
  Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution that works well!
Woohoo. After a hardware upgrade that requires kernel 6.14 or newer I've been stuck on arch. Time to breakout the old drive and try an upgrade.
- Fedora also has up to date kernels, if you wanted to run something other than Arch.
  
  At the time of myhardware upgrade it was only arch and nix that supported 6.14.
  I've got mixed feelings about Fedora. I spent 10 years using a mix of Fedora, Red Hat, CEntOS, and Red Hawk at work so I'm very used to it.
  However some of the decisions Red Hat the company have been making make me hesitant about it's future. It also makes me feel like I'm at work when I use it at home.
  It's not a bad linux family at all and if I was setting up a production server CEntOS would probably be my choice.
  
  I use nobara which is a fork of fedora it's pretty good. Though the update manager gui is complete crap for how slow it is.
After using Fedora for a few days I do not care for the desktop environment and hot keys
But holy fuck how have I been sleeping on toolboxes?
The dev environment is great, I’m loving it. I even installed fedora 43 in a container to test out some rocm features and I didn’t even need to reboot.
- What desktop environment are you using, KDE Plasma?
  But yeah, Bazzite is immutable Fedora, and distrobox is essential (and comes pre-installed).
  
  Gnome, which I used to love 20 years ago lol
  I thought Bazzite was just for gaming… o would rather a near immutable distribo, once it’s set up with VPN and stuff I want everything else in containers and running at user privileges.
I just briefly went through what's in the update. It's mostly visuals and some minor integrations? Or am I missing something?
- Its a point release, so that's to be expected.
  They also updated to kernel 6.14 and updated mesa to 25.0.7, which means for people like me with a Radeon 9060 XT, it's no longer necessary to use a PPA for updated mesa.
Wayland still in experimental mode? :(
- yes
I updated last night and don't see much of a change in my experience other than my toolbar icon look different. I streamed fo 2.5 hours on Arma Refroger no issues
Have always wondered how badly it could bork my system if I tried to "turn" my beautiful Kubuntu install into a Linux Mint install.
Anyone has any advice or experience of doing it without butchering everything? And yes, I would like to stay on KDE.
- Mint has no KDE install which makes it a hazzle to setup and fragile to upgrade. You also wouldn't gain anything, because they are both ubuntu based systems. Not worth it imo, like a sidegrade.
  You can transplant your desktop onto anything, the configuration is stored in .config and .local in your home folder. Bring those to another distribution with the same software (copy while you are not logged in, ie while in live cd or reuse the home partition without formatting) and it will look the same.
  
  Thanks for the advice. Wanted to give Cinnamon a go, didn't go well when I tried installing it on Kubuntu (permissions with access to important files held in KWallet were all screwed up and half the stuff wasn't working so I kinda gave up).
It doesn't seem like that big of an update. Unless you need something listed in the release notes, you can stay where you are. I am running 21.3. It is good until 2026. My configuration is a bit complex and I hate spending the time to update.
- It fixed dark mode not working properly in Firefox. 100% needed for me lol.
  
  That's weird, I haven't gotten the update yet but dark mode is working fine in FF for me. The place where it fails is ff-based webapps, which I use for YouTube music, Discord, and MS Teams.
  
  Glad it helped you.
But it's 2024 🤔

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