Breaking news: Millennial and GenZ women have standards

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Andrew Tate
Jordan Peterson
TP USA

We see you guys and you make us drier than the Sahara. Please grow a personality that isn't hating women

Fun Fact: Rot Brain Peterson has, on the record, unironically advocated that "society needs to work to make sure men are married" so they don't become violent.
And he says feminists are the ones besmirching masculinity.
- Incredible, he's infantilized men into big dangerous toddlers that throw a violent fit when they don't get what they want.
What is Toilet Paper USA?
- Turning point USA is Charlie Kirk's (I think) organization. It's your typical right-wing "you're anti-capitalist, yet you live in a capitalist society. Curious."
  Toilet paper USA is that format, but with Charlie Kirk's head subtly photoshopped (maybe).
- Hoarding things unrelated to a feared potential outcome?

I searched for JRE the other day expecting a link to Java Runtime Environment.

Now Google thinks I like Joe fucking Rogan.

- This just in: 55% of women said they would not date a man that programs in Java.
  My response: "Really? How is it not 85%‽ Factory.Factory jobs have been on the way out for decades..."

I'm Gen X and I'd rather sew my vagina shut than go near any man into Musk/Peterson/Trump/Rogan, etc, for what it's worth. Can't speak for the boomers though.

Thank you for your service
Real question, what's wrong with Rogan? I get that he says some things that I might not agree with myself, but he's still fun to watch in my opinion.
- I agree he's fun to watch
  But he's also a sneako right winger. he always claims to be just asking questions but he platforms primarily people on the right, including his ghoul of a friend Alex Jones, with occasional responses from the other side, but it's heavily skewed. He's a hard r republican even in violation of his own beliefs, supporting politicians who would re-criminalize weed
  Shapiro might be a smarmy queef, but at least he wears his allegiance on his sleeve, Rogan, Peterson, and Musk play coy for broader appeal like they're not fully in line with the party and they don't understand the allegation, when they absolutely are and they absolutely do. To quote one of them "I can't say I respect that"
- His podcast used to be like sneakily listening to your dad and uncle shoot the shit. It would be funny, insightful, philosophical etc.
  Now it's like listening to your senile grandpa bitching about the same thing over and over again telling the same story and shitting on the youth for doing the same thing he did when he was younger.
  Best way I can describe it.

I nearly noped out on a date with someone when she revealed that she thought the Joe Rogan experience was "funny".

Weirdest thing about listening to jre is that you realize that Joe is deeply unfunny. He has a few funny friends though.
- Even his old stand up was just not very good. He seems to be likable on a personal level though so he got along well with the actually funny comedians. I think the Golden age of his career started when he went on Tom Green's internet TV show and got the idea to do the Joe Rogan experience.
- Most comedians will bend over backwards to compliment Joe and gas him up about how influential a comedian he is, just so they can use his show as a promotional tool.
Depending on the guests it can be. Some of his comedian friends are quite funny. I like watching Bill Burr tear into him.
Nearly? There’d be a me shaped hole in a wall. Get some real standards bro.
- Him: [I might've found my other half!]
  Her: "I find Joe Rogan funny"
  Him [...it could still be a one night stand]
That's even worse than watching his podcast. I've never thought he was funny.

It’s hilarious to me that Republicans have now decided that whole generations of Americans are the enemy. They love to shit on millennials especially but any young generation is a weak, woke, twisted mob come to ruin the world. Hating all young people (aside from Kyle Rittenhouse) is not a well-thought-strategy.

Millennials are not young anyway. I'm a millennial and I'm 40.
- Definitely: they got this “millennials” idea stuck in their heads 10 years ago and they still use it as shorthand for “these kids today.” You try to talk to them about GenZ and Alpha and they roll their eyes and say “the who now?”
- I always get a kick out of this, I tell people that I am one of the younger millennials and I'm 32. Older people just have millennial=young person in their head.
Fucking "woke" man... it's kinda nice in a way, because now I know whenever I see that word brought up I can safely ignore what comes after it as the person has proven that they're brainwashed by Reich wing media...
It's absolutely fucking ridiculous seeing the "discussions" section on Steam about a goddamn video game be filled with "Is this game woke?" "BOYCOTT WOKE GAME" "Remove the option to have pronouns or we'll cancel you!"
Absolutely fucking brainwashed... Literally a bunch of Pavlov's dogs running around getting triggered by options in a video game because they were conditioned to.
- I actually remember before the term “woke” got stolen by Fox News and was frequently used across Black Twitter as a shorthand for taking the red pill on seeing racism and intersectional grief in our society. Once your eyes are open to these truths, you can’t stop seeing them.
  Ah OH BOY some people have a PROBLEM with the truth being plainly seen and spoken about. Can’t have that!
- It's actually kind of a tragedy that the word has taken on that perception. There are some things that can and should be discussed that fall under the "woke" definition. But there's no good alternative word. DEI is commonly used, but it's not applicable in some instances when woke still would be. So we're left kind of floundering around looking for words to describe a concept that is easily summed up as woke, just to avoid the perception of being a close-minded bigot. This isn't the first, and certainly won't be the last thing that the right has taken, bastardized, and used until it's tired and worn out.
OK Boomer.
While I agree that Republicans have absolutely marked younger generations as the enemy, Democrats are doing the exact same thing with older generations.
- Mm no, we’re not going to “both sides” this. First of all, OK Boomer was not invented by the democrats nor is it a democratic harping point. The democrats have some of the oldest politicians of all time in The White House and running Congress.
  Secondly, the Democrats don’t actively legislate against the interests of old people, as Republicans do with their war on reproductive rights, resistance to college debt forgiveness, and terrible environmental record.
  So no: it is not in any way or degree “the exact same thing.”
The debate surrounding millennials is a challenging and nuanced topic, increasingly rising at an accelerating rate of percentage growth expansion velocity, per year per capita. For instance, many would agree that Albert Einstein was a great millennial, but Adolf Hitler not so much.

It's almost as if even regular young people can see that Rogan's show is a prototype of how to normalize stupidity and give platforms to manipulative grifters. Medical misinformation, not-so-subtle right wing agenda (read: anti-science, anti-LGBTQ, or at least the willingness to platform people with those views) and giving safe space to regressive "common sense" type debate. Panty melting shit, that.

"You just need to float in my tank, bro. It's filled with rhino blood and gorilla jizz. Man you right up."
IDK if I'd come to that conclusion since 45% don't consider it a turn off.
- a) how many women simply don't know him, or don't know him well enough to warrant an instant turn off?
  b) how many women see it as a red flag, but are willing to give the benefit of the doubt?
  Surveys like these are always a bit tricky, because you often don't actually see the phrasing of the questions and you also can't see, what the thought process was behind coming to a yes/no conclusion.
But then how do you account for the fact that he was a very large Bernie Sanders supporter? He is also against the polarization of America.
Additionally, he has called out that nearly 19 of the top 20 Facebook Christian pages were actually fronts for Russian information operations to divide America.
The more our adversaries make us hate each other and dehumanize people we disagree with, the more they succeed.
Both the PRC and Russia are doing active information operations on the US based on what has been going on. They want division. They are making us give up our faith in democracy.
- Focusing on only the small bits that confirm your conclusion while ignoring all the things that go against it (like his huge amount of support for right wing politics, anti-vaxx sentiments, science denialism, constant stream of misinformation, and platforming people like Alex Jones, restating that same Russian propaganda you're complaining about) is confirmation bias.
  Also he's one of the biggest dividers in America. If he's against it so much, you'd think he'd take a step back and figure out how to stop doing that. But no, he doesn't actually give a shit.

GOP politician : The younger generation isn't voting for us!

GOP strategist: We need to make fun of their beliefs and concerns more!

The actual strategists have long since left or are in an alcohol induced stupor. The "strategists" remaining are true believers that are horrible at strategy.
- And yet the current strategy continues to ensnare young and old people alike. I think you need to reconsider that the wolfs are in the henhouse and things are going according to plan.
The GOP pushed their message so hard now the cart is leading the horse and there's nothing they're willing to do to stop it.

I really cannot wait until millenials and GenZ grow older take over the world. The youth of today are just so much smarter than us, and I feel like they are more exposed to internet media that they aren't easily influenced. I just hope there is enough of the world left for them after we are done with it.

As a millennial, I disagree. Plenty of my friends, whom used to be outspoken idealist have taken industry jobs for known bad actors. Not being poor, not living in squalor, and being able to afford a visit to the doctor, being able to afford housing, being able to afford to raise a family, these are not minor things. And at a certain point many will just give up, and give in to those who offer security and comfort. And also there's just a ton of youth media whose only core value is wealth obtainment. I've several friends proudly proclaiming they can't wait to be rich, will grind and hustle, but can't be bothered to vote; including a couple with graduate degrees.
I think a lot of people put way too much weight on these terms: baby-boomer, genz, millennial etc. They're primarily used for marketers to try and segment us into targetable demographics. And by lazy journalist to make very broad sweeping categorizations of huge groups of people. Sociologists and economists probably use the terms with a bit more specificity on average, but that gets lost when communicating with a general audience. I think we have way more in common then a lot of us like to think. I typically get down-voted for having this opinion, because a lot of people don't want to hear that, no they are not actually special. There have been many amazing people that came from the generations prior to our own, there will be some from our own, but most of us will behave the same way humanity always has when put in similar conditions.
I have little hope that future generations will be better at running the planet. So far they appear to be arguably just as easily influenced, open to fads and greedy as their parents.
"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country."
Born in the upper half of the 90s - yeah, maybe. 2000+ - I'm not sure at best. Sometimes I meet amazingly smart people on the first look from that group, but then there are gaping white spots in their worldview.
and I feel like they are more exposed to internet media that they aren’t easily influenced.
That's wrong. They are fscking clueless.
- I'm tail end of the 90s and my half brother is late 00s, the difference in attitude, work ethic and learnings is astounding.
  I have personally witnessed this kid (I love him I swear) throw a controller through a TV because Fortnite lost connection (old man turning the wifi off because it's the only way to get his attention).
  It fucking disgusts me, I know I was bad when I was younger, but nothing like that.
  I'm not even sure Millennials will get their time in the sun at this rate, some numpty in politics will find a new idea for legislation to ensure the millennial suffrage continues unabated.

On related news, their standards are pretty low, as a whooping 45% of Millenial and GenZ ~~woman~~ women would drop as low as having a partner that listens to "The Joe Rogan Experience".

- There are plenty of other podcasts with great episodes that don't platform Nazis.
- I have to confess that I don't really know who Joe Rogan is, sorry.
- I don't go out of my way to listen to him, but some of his episodes with people like Neil Degrasse Tyson and Brian Cox come up in my YouTube feeds. As long as Rogan isn't talking then they're ok.
On related news, their standards are pretty low, as a whooping 45% of Millenial and GenZ woman women would drop as low as having a partner ONCE that listens to “The Joe Rogan Experience”.
I made it more clear.
You know, some just don't know what that potentially means, but the number who would be willing to do this again (after the definitve breakup or breakdown, which ever comes first) is way, way, way lower.

I listened to his Bernie episode he does sometimes have someone on im curious about I listen about 3 times a year
- Yeah I feel like he was one of the first ones doing those long form interviews which was great. He had Sean Carroll on and told him to start his own - which he then did, and it's awesome. As soon as others started doing those kinds of podcasts (and Rogan got more insane) I stopped listening to joe. I don't think that makes me the crazy one but wtf do I know
I used to listen for the broad variety of guests he'd have. I haven't* caught one in a long time but there are some people I'll watch wherever they're on.

Don't forget Jordan Peterson being a turn off!

- [>“Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married. ‘The cure for that is monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges,’ [he says.] Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.
  “‘Half the men fail,’ he says, meaning they don’t procreate. ‘And no one cares about the men who fail.’
  “I laugh, because it is absurd.
  “‘You’re laughing about them,’ he says, giving me a disappointed look. ‘That’s because you’re female.’”](https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/may/23/jordan-peterson-public-intellectual-isnt-clever-violent-men-monogamy)

Saw a post from a Joe Rogan sub Lemmy. Immediately BLOCKED.

lol I just looked it up so I could block it too. Fortunately, it looks like the two people that posted there gave up and abandoned it a month ago.

Is this the same Tammy Loreen who was too dumb to foresee that her party of fascists would be against her views that women should have rights?

No that was the one from TPUSA. Tami is the one who got the nose job and was fired from Breitbart (I think? One of the right wing rags) for saying "hey maybe a women's right to choose what to do with her body isn't completely evil" and then got a job at Fox news and someone threw a cup of water on her whilst she was eating lunch
No that's Jennifer

What is the point she is trying to make? That women have agency? This is what passes for controversy on the right th se days?

I don't think that's the point she was trying to make.

Honest question, why is Rogan a baddie?

In the guise of "just asking questions" and "listening to all sides" he platforms people with extreme views including some far right weirdos, and normalizes them to his audience. He is also just a walking example of the Dunning-Kruger effect and somehow one of the most listened to voices among his demographic, which draws additional ire from many, myself included.
- This is just my opinion. I dont have any stats to really back it up.
  I used to listen to his podcast fairly often, though now it's quite rare.
  he has progressively moved to the right over his time being a podcaster. He was originally much more towards the center of the political spectrum, which probably helped his original growth and popularity. He also rarely took sides on any argument, the exceptions usually in his professional careers of comedy and UFC. Now, he often seems to have strong opinions that tend to align to the right, even though he has little to no knowledge in the field.
  I do think a large reason why this happened is due to the far left attacking him and attempting to cancel him. The most obvious example is the statements early on about trans people fighting in the UFC/combat sports.
  He has had many guests that are quite worth listening to. Neil D Tyson, Lex Friedman, Sam Harris, etc. And even those on the right are still worth listening to. You dont have to agree with them, but its good to hear their arguments in order to make up your own mind.
- Alright, fair enough. One thing I don't fully comprehend though is why can't we listen to people with extremely opposing views to challenge our own views? Why do we have to only listen to people that fit a certain category? Isn't that conformity bias?
  I'm sorry. These are not meant to be loaded questions.
  Perhaps a sound argument would be that general populous lack critical thinking and such distractive views can have undesired consequences.
Gateway to the far right
He's an impressionable idiot, and he has listened to a ton of far right propaganda. Combine those things with a huge platform and you end up with large scale misinformation.
Joe Rogan is that guy who likes to sit down at the table with fascists. And what does that make him? Yep, that's right.
He's a dumb ass reality TV host who uses quackery and thinks it's bliss

Now, if we could just get them to VOTE.

GOP is doing everything they can to prevent that. Failing that, they do enlverything they can to avoid counting their votes by gerrymandering even when it's illegal to do so (see Alabama SCOTUS ruling, which Alabama is just ignoring).
I'm extremely optimistic. I think they will show in droves. Fingers crossed!

You forgot the /s at the end of your caricature of a loser
I wouldn’t date any of those boring women. :)
I don't think they'll mind.
Virtue Signaling
lmao... Yeah, okay. They definitely won't mind.
I wouldn't date any of those boring women
If a good looking guy comes along and he listens to Rogan, she won't care at all.
If you think that, I get the feeling if a good looking woman came along you wouldn't care at all if she was "boring". But go ahead and keep virtue signaling on how picky you are while also assuming women aren't.
Sure buddy, keep telling yourself that
If a good looking guy comes along and he listens to Rogan, she won't care at all.
Maybe on their first date, but a long term relationship like does work a bit different
- Their take is pretty much what I expect from someone who has Rogan brain rot.
I dont care how good looking you are if you're a bigot. And none of my friends do either. Were literally telling you that we won't date you if you're bigoted and you prove over and over again that you aren't even listening.
- Plenty of fish in the sea
Boring? As if listening to JRE makes you interesting.
Women who don't like Joe Rogan for no good reason is a red flag. Simple as that.

Hey hey now, not so fast! She needs to add Gen X here too.

If she remembered Gen X existed, she'd be breaking the first two rules of Gen X.
- Shhh don't tell them

It's a shame that the bare fucking minimum has to be considered standards now and not a given.

I have been with a partner who disagrees with me on many political issues for over 20 years. I'd say it has made me better and more open-minded. We have some core values in common but likely don't vote for the same candidates much of the time. If you can have good faith disagreements and discussions with people who don't share your worldview, that isn't a bad thing.

Alternatively you can coalesce around certain core values while respecting the other person has their issues you won't agree on and vice versa. If your core values are completely out of alignment though, it isn't likely to work.

Yeah, I mean it's one thing to disagree on the minutia of policy vs whether or not trans people should be eliminated.
Let's not ignore the current political landscape we find ourselves in.
You can't have good faith disagreements with people who are not operating in good faith. Republicans have lost their fucking minds.

I wonder how "desirable" these woman are that took part in this survey and will refuse to date non-woke men.

I know so many people are going to dogpile on me for making this comment and downvote this comment to hell. However I think a big part of it is the person's character and not entirely a generation.

Ohhhhh the classic, only Desirable women believe in the patriarchy. Good character is someone that believes in themselves while fighting for equality regardless of their personal beliefs and economic standing. For the communities under attack by a while political wing of America, there is no difference between a racist, misogynist, etc and a person that votes for one.

The women or the men?

As I've said before, the doors on the pussy wagon have been bolted shut after that abortion ruling.

Doors to my cockmobile closed long before that, I've no interest in having kids, most of my peers feel the same. I'm actively looking to have the snip and I'm not even thirty yet, no divorce rape for me thanks. I've lived through two already.
Edit: I'm apparently "too young" to be making "decisions that could affect my future" at nearly thirty, what a fucking joke.

Isn't the Rogan experience what happens after about 2 weeks of using Rogan? Like all your old dead hair falls out and you began to regrow new hair? Is this about bald people like Trump?

If Tomi had standards she'd get off that steaming plile of shit that is _reddit _twitter X and post somewhere else.

This nonsense of even slightly disagreeing or saying you like something but not necessarily 100% with it = canceled is ridiculous
Yes, because that's such a low bar for what "cancelling" is. You're basically saying that people aren't allowed to have preferences or dislikes because then it could be considered "cancelling".
This notion that he's being "cancelled" because women find his fans odious is such stupid horseshit.
If you actually want to know what's so bad about him, maybe go and find out instead of pretending to ask as a prelude to accusing the people who don't like him of something so inane.
It's pretty easy to find out why, just go look at the other comments mad about him being disliked and how they're talking about women. That's the kind of guy Joe Rogan attracts as a fan. Show the women in your life those comments and see if they'd consider dating these guys.

I finally found the motivation I needed to finish setting up my lemmy account.
It was telling you that you live in a world that is not real and your lack of confidence or self awareness, whatever the case may be, is not the fault of the women you blame for the fact you can't get laid.
Turn back now, work on self improvement, and get out of the incel to alt right pipeline
What is it with the Venn diagram of overly confident comp sci kids and far right viewpoints being a circle?
- Best guess is that young male nerds have been flooded with endless amounts of nazi propaganda on 4chan for the last 15 years.

Headline should just read: "9/10 wamen say Joe Rogan and Trump bad"