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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.

I mean, this is a good idea for a big reason other than genes though, people who are currently addicted to meth shouldn't be having kids, not from a gene perspective but as an unfit parent and as an unsafe pregnancy standpoint.
- While I agree with you, the problem is, that it opens the door for a lot of other forms of eugenics. Once we decided that Meth users shouldn't have kids we can quickly expand the definition of who is "allowed to have kids". People who take LSD? Those psychopaths. Stoners? Homeless people? Black people?
  It gives a certain group of people power over one of the most intimate secsectors of someone's private life. No one can guarantee, that at some point we are not the ones being included in the definition of "unfit for parenting" simply because we have the wrong political views or something like that.
I get why you think that, but it does not say permanent.
If the birth control lasted 1-6 month to ensure active addicts would not have children, I would be kind of in favor of it. There is nothing good about a child being raised by meth addicts or taken by CPS and going through orphanages/foster care.
This is only because the word "eugenics" has been made a bad word because people assume that anything called "eugenics" must be similar to the horrible things the Nazis did. It's the non-central fallacy -- such things are eugenics only in the same way that Martin Luther king is technically a criminal (he did violate the law by protesting) or abortion is murder (a "human being" does "die").
Polygenic scoring on embryos is legal and eminently doable if you're wealthy enough to afford it; it's a very effective way to eliminate the risk of debilitating genetic diseases like Down's Syndrome, and can greatly reduce the risk of things like Alzheimer's or some types of cancer. It also can improve the IQ of your child by up to ~8 points or so, which correlates (plausibly causally) with higher education and income in life. So basically, it's an effective way to help make your child more privileged. Right now it's only affordable by the very wealthy though, but perhaps in ten years it will be very cheap.
Notice though that it's unrelated to race pseudoscience and murder, even though race pseudoscientists and nazis like to talk about genetics and IQ.
- There are other hazards and i don't trust this society to deal with any of them in healthy ways.
Looks like it’s time to reinvent the Torment Nexus from famed science fiction novel “Don’t Invent The Torment Nexus”. Maybe it will go well this time!
I mean we do take kids off crackheads. Repeatedly in some cases.
Not eugenics though, if anything it's a rather leftist stance that accepts that you can't control what people put in their body, but tries to mitigates harm for those who have no choice.
- Controlling which people are allowed to reproduce is eugenics.

So this is like one or two steps removed from "sterilize people with ADHD lol." Kinda like RFK's super funny "work camp" idea.

Methamphetamine is literally still prescribed for ADHD under the name Desoxyn. Not as often as Adderall (mixed amphetamine salts), etc... but it is.

They should put meth in birth control. It would make it easier to remember to take it on time and I could call them “mommy’s pep pills” and it would be charmingly ironic because I have no children because I’m good at taking my pills on time.

my antidepressant is apparently really damn addictive, I forgot to take them for a week with no issues. Honestly I felt better. No idea why I didn't have any withdrawals 🤷‍♀️
I do imagine meth is slightly more impactful though

And a dash of chilli powder. I'm currently watching Breaking Bad for the first time.

The episode where the kid named finger beats Walt Jr to death while Walter just sits in his cuck chair and jacks it is crazy
- True, but the valkyries were a bit over the top. What were they even doing with all those used tissues?
Dude I envy that so much because you get to do this best thing about the whole show once you've finished it.
Do not for any reason look this up before you're done because of spoilers. But when you are done, search "breaking bad comics"

am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"

Abstracting "meth users" to "drug users" is hell of a leap.
I disagree with the eugenics involved here. but the real solution is free healthcare with accessible birth control.
Absolutely is. Im guessing only temporarily though. Pretty sure you can just stop taking your birth control pills and start ovulating properly again.
Seems like a pretty good idea as long as it doesn't get slippery sloped. No babies while mething about.
Because meth heads make such responsible parents and are usually in a great position to have children
- "no no you see, in this case, eugenics is justified!"
  i don’t care. it’s still wrong.

I... don't know that heated, aerosolized birth control of any kind would... be an effective delivery mechanism...

But uh, honestly, his heart's in the right place, a child born addicted to meth is an absolute tragedy, basically just completely fucked from Day 0.

Cutting meth with BC drugs is ... probably way, way, waaaay safer than all the idiots currently cutting it with fentanyl, carfentanyl, the even stronger shit where an actual speck of sand's worth csn be the difference between a high and a completely guaranteed OD.

Meth isn't only smoked
- I've spent a time homeless.
  Did my best to stay as far away from all that as best as possible, but uh... nah, it is mainly smoked.
  Sure, you can try some other method, you're a lot more likely to OD, get an infection that never heals and goes gangrene... but you can try...
  Unless your definition of 'meth' is so broad that it also includes like, taking adderol as prescribed... yeah, most people smoke meth.
  Snorting and IV is just way, way too fucking dangerous given how anything could be cut with god knows how much of what.
  Saw people find that out the hard way... still got PTSD from doing my best as basically the only homeless person at the shelter/encampment that knew how to do any real level of first aid.

Put both in the drinking water and also put a lime in a coconut

I'm for this, not because I think they have bad genes, but because meth heads tend to make shitty parents

Birth control, like a USB thumb drive full with Asmongold videos?

i'm ootl on him, whats his problem?
- Dude literally has cockroaches crawling on him in his videos, you can tell a guy by the company he keeps.

What happened to pedro pascal

Looks more like Louis CK

Put birth control in ivermectin

it would be better to put it in church

Ah yes, the answer to any social problem: eugenics

This is not eugenics and wouldn't be permanent. People shouldn't be having unplanned pregnancies while addicted to hard drugs. If you cant stop using meth long enough to conceive then how are you gonna stop uaing meth during the pregnancy? Or once the baby is born? I have no problem with drug use and think it should be legalized but i think this would be a good concession to make if it were legalized. If you wanna have a baby just stop using meth. Otherwise go nuts.
I mean... some drugs (the medicine kind) are prescribed with birth control because they're bad for babies. Is meth not bad for the baby?
Also, if I may, what exactly is the criteria for something to be eugenics? I am not well informed; would, for example, not allowing people who wear black socks to have kids be eugenics?
- Rendering people infertile (even temporarily) without their informed consent is unethical. Doing it to a class of people due to your perception that people like them shouldn’t breed is eugenics. This would qualify. The black socks thing probably would too, but it sounds ridiculous because that’s a class of people nobody would realistically target for elimination from the breeding pool.
  Offering free birth control to drug users- fine! Dosing them without their consent- no bueno.

Nah... just give it dash of ULTRA STRONG DOSE VIAGRA (or equivalent to it)

I mean, meth is already a powerful aphrodisiac

Imagine that... Birth control in all hard drugs.

they should also put it in alcohol and tobacco
This is the mistake, because some "hard drugs" are fine, they're just hangups for idiots who got tragic amounts of power.
- Idk, I don't think anyone should make a baby on drugs. I'm a fan of drugs, I just don't think people should make babies on them. Except maybe mushrooms.

Is that Valtteri Bottas ?

Another big reason for drug legalizing 🎖️

Or throw $5 into a shared horse who is prone to ulcers. Suddenly no issues getting abortion access.

Wut?
- misoprostol is prescribed for medical abortions and for Ulcers in horses.
- I think the joke is that the horse could kick the pregnant person and cause a miscarriage

Put me in meth in birth controlled liquid uranium with meth :3