Mozilla did something good!

lol I was so confused by Firefox not needing to restart that I tried running update again and then closed it myself because I thought something went wrong

that forced restart is probably going to be a huge win for our rolling release brothers and sisters.

I believe, Firefox bugfix releases get rolled out pretty quickly on most non-rolling distros, too, so I don't think it's a terribly different experience, unless you're on a distro with Firefox ESR, like e.g. Debian.
- Can you expand on this a little for a new guy who is considering a switch from Mint to Debian?
  In my understanding Firefox ESR is like a stable, longstanding version that doesn’t get frequent little updates but still gets occasional large updates. (Like 1.0, 1.1, etc. rather than 1.0, 1.0.1, 1.0.2, etc.)
  Is there a measurable difference in the user experience and or security of ESR?
  And is Debian actually restricted to ESR?
Why? I already reboot daily because everything gets updated so much. (I'm into that)
- I’ve got a super ignorant question; Is the situation with session saving on Linux desktop environments with default settings finally locked in enough that you literally can’t tell when a reboot has happened once the session is restored? Including user space apps? _Redacted_OS has been so good at this for so long that I literally don’t think about uptime on my daily driver anymore.
Why?
Does one reboot their entire system after updating Firefox on Linux?
I never do. I don’t even restart Firefox after updating, if it is already running.
- I never do. I don’t even restart Firefox after updating, if it is already running.
  Clearly you don't use it often, firefox will force you to restart itself and refuse to render webpages.
- On Linux:
  an application's files can be updated while the application is running, and
  there's an OS-wide updater (i.e. package manager) with which you can update most software, including Firefox. (You can also get Firefox with its built-in auto-updater, but most people prefer the OS-wide updater.)
  Both of these are good things. But Firefox, with its relatively advanced multi-process architecture, had a problem here, because it could happen that its files got updated while it was running and then when it started a new process, this new process might be incompatible with the old processes, therefore unable to communicate correctly.
  Their initial solution was to force you to quit Firefox and reopen it, when they detected that the files had changed and you did something in Firefox which might need a new process, so primarily when opening a new tab.
  I'm guessing, they now implemented a way to launch the new process by still using the old files from before the update.

WHAT???? ALL OF THOSE FEATURES HAVE BEEN IN NIGHTLY FOR A MONTH AND I STILL ALWAYS RESTART IT OUT OF HABIT! IT'S LITERALLY PART OF MY ROUTINE AND NOW YOU TELL ME IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANYMORE?

AND ADD THE OPTION TO REPLACE SPACEBAR HEATING!
https://xkcd.com/1172/
AND THE BEST PART IS THAT YOU STILL CAN RESTART IT IF YOU WANT TO! WELCOME TO THE FUTURE, LUCY!

Good to know that I am not the only one mistaking Cr1TiKaL aka MoistCr1TiKaL aka penguinz0 aka Charles Christopher White Jr. as Asmongold aka Zack Hoyt (the rightwing influencer).

the guy in the picture isnt the cockroach king?

Charlie's still using that gamer version of Opera though. With the fake key stroke sounds enabled.

Charlie is a simple creature.
woah what that sounds horrible lmao

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I miss the days when it was normal to just shut down the pc when you were done with it. Leaving things on all of the time isn't healthy.

Fully disagree. Just leave it on, restart it once every 7-10 days if you're using windows. Linux, reboot when it asks, could be months.
When I finish what I want to do on my PC, I type “yay” enjoy text and pacmans going left to right, press enter some times, and type sudo pw some times.
After that I reboot to check, that I am not stuck in TTY and turn off after
It's healthier for the hardware to just leave it running then turning it off and on all the time.
We ain't in the days of mechanical moving parts anymore. Idle time is way less of a problem then power ons.
- I'm talking about my health, not the machine's health.
I always turn computer off when done, it never sleeps or hibernates, no need since I'm either using it or not, through been leaving it on 24/7 at moment due to wiping some hard drives which takes time, so it's working which is fine 😬

Getting rid of that forced restart will at least help me personally stay more secure and get bug fixes faster

Still does telemetry, and allows easy fingerprinting by default. Use Librewolf instead.

Or you can just opt out if you don't think Mozilla should have this data which is strictly about the browser and whether it's the default browser, and which in no way compromises any personal info.
Just because something uses telemetry doesn't mean it's used in a way that compromises your personal data.
Google, Microsoft, Facebook and many others do that, Mozilla/Firefox does not.
- You probably missed the news. But Firefox is becoming a data seller too.
  Recently they updated their policies, since they are on GitHub you can see the exact changes.
  One of them was the elimination of a phrase like "we won't sell your data, and that's a promise". So promise broken I guess.
by the way some people talk here you'd think "telemetry" was a synonym to "satanism".
telemetry is not automatically evil.
- It would be ok if it was opt in

Oh thank god. I've been getting crushed by memory sucking tabs.

Laughs in automatic tab suspender

AI sloppa

Oh, that is good news. Hurray!

to be fair, i thought asmongold and penguinz0 were the same person, and that cr1tikal was a seperate, equally shit-headed person. My poor brain-- so the "woo lets go baby" guy is a decent dude? and its the other guy that has a rat corpse alarm clock? or am i still confused?

you are correct

Great and all, but until it can play full screen video on my Pi5 I'm going to keep using Brave.

Why would you use an image of that gross motherfucker to represent something good happening

Are you confusing this guy with Asmongold?
- I was. I should have noticed the lack of black mold in the background. Who is it?
Why do you think he's gross? He's like legit one of the nicest people.
- he probably thinks it's Asmongold or something.
Could you explain, I don't know anything about Moist Critical. I'm just using the 'Woo Yeah Baby! That's What I've Been Waiting For' meme.
- As mentioned in another reply, I thought it was Asmon

... i was supposed to be restarting after updating Firefox???

Just restarting Firefox, not the entire system.
Which doesn't really matter for 99.99% of users that are sane and only use a couple windows and tabs at a time. Saving things they aren't actively using anymore as bookmarks and using the browsing history for anything they closed previously but need again.
For the 0.01% of insane but vocal users that never close tabs and/or keep dozens of windows open, that's a big deal.
- ah, then yeah I just have "restore previous tabs" selected and restart the app, no biggie
- But also for normal users it's annoying as if you're in the middle of something like filling out a form, clicking onto the next page will tell you you need to restart your browser, and you lose your progress. So yeah, I'm happy about this change.
- I do this, but now I have 10k+ bookmarks, fairly organized, but the bookmark manager is trash. It is slow and getting slower. Also, searching history feels like '90's web search: hopeless if you don't remember exact keywords.
- call me out why don't ya?