Useless twisting of our new technology

Don't forget Radiohead releasing Planet Telex in 1995, then OK Computer in 1997.

Was born in 1996, please can someone tell me who's this? I'd like to listen to them. Thank you.

It's Jamiroquai.
This video is for: "Virtual Insanity".
The video to : "Automaton" is also worth a watch in my opinion.
You NEED to watch the video: https://youtu.be/4JkIs37a2JE
- I really love this cover of virtual insanity.
  https://youtu.be/ZTDcdRTziMM
  I know it's almost unrelated to the discussion because you're talking about the music video, but how often is Jamiroquai brought up?
- I remember my mind being blown away by a TV segment that explained how the practical effect was achieved.
- Isn't this just Pasttime Paradise by Stevie Wonder?
It’s your real dad.

Banger music video

Plus JK is a cool dude.
Great tune too tbh
ty OP for making my afternoon playlist a lot funkier

Then your mind will literally explode if you listen to "Computer Love" by Zapp & Roger, released in...... 1985!

Also, System Addict by 5 Star was 1985 IIRC

Reminds me of Serial Experiments Lain, an anime released in 1998 that talks about the power of social networks and how companies will compete to gain control of the internet. Some of the predictions are outstandingly good.

I remember the that summer. Always wanted a Jamiroqoi hat

Always wanted a Jamiroqoi hat
You'll have to be way more specific than that.

Before the modern web, before Wikipedia, before pocket computers, Encarta was the shit!

yeah i spent so much time reading random shit on it. to be fair i already did that with physical encyclopedias so it was natural. but the fact that Encarta allowed what's now known as wiki surfing was next level for me.

I miss the old internet. Usenet was magic.

Ah, convergence. In retrospect, it seems obvious that the Web would just get extended to do all that stuff. The part that was harder to predict was corporations taking over all the platforms. I guess I just waited to believe that everything would stay democratized.
Check out the gemini protocol and the small web.
- Or ... you know, the Usenet?

Looks like the The Expanse main character throwing a hat party inside the Rocinante.

😂🤣

https://xkcd.com/1227/

Went down a rabbit hole bc of this (thank you) and found out JK is a twinkess twin and so is Elvis

Not sure what that means but I saw him live a few years back and I was shocked how extremely British he is, both in accent and great sense of humour. Also the whole band is now a bunch of old dudes. I guess that shouldn't be surprising but it was very different from the picture I had in my head since my childhood.
Except the music. The music was just as good as ever. It was awesome.
- Did he actually have canned meat in his heels when you saw him?
- Original post made me search for jamiraquoi, which led to me listening to their music, then finding a yt about their music video which led me to the jk wiki page, which had the term twinkess twin, so then I started on that etc. Internet Rabbit hole.
  Im glad he's still robustly british.

It's all about the Pentiums baby.

I'm walking into spiderwebs, so leave a message and I'll call you back.

People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds. Like back in the day there were people saying the same thing about books when the printing press was invented

And they had a point. While the printing press (not books, those are way older) was a tool that could be used for good, many quickly realized that it gave propagandists a whole new set of tools to manipulate people with. Newspapers had a ridiculous amount of opinion-making power for quite a while there, they just got replaced by radio, TV, and then social media and now LLMs.
What if very powerful people are literally using tech to warp people's minds on purpose?
- You mean like gasp writing subverting books?!
People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds.
Because it does.
Ask a 20yo to do simple math without using a calculator.
The more "helping" technology we rely on, the stupider we become.
- Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel. Nobody could do that back then. How stupid.
  It's an equally wrong argument.
  People's skills adapt to what they need frequently. If they need something, they will learn how to do it and they will know how to do it. If they don't need it, they will lose it. Why would you want to keep maintaining a skill you don't need? It doesn't make you a better person.
- When common core math was introduced across the US, I wanted to know what all the hubbub was about, so I looked into it. Funny that, despite so many parents decrying it, a few instruction pages ended up giving me (as an adult) the number sense that hadn't fully developed from my time in school. I use constructs from it all the time now and mental math has never been easier.
  Calculators are great tools, but being able to do quick math in your head before everyone else can finish punching the numbers in makes people wonder if you have super powers.
- joke's on you. I've always been stupid

I don't know that I've ever actually registered any of the lyrics within this song, save for "vurchahwuhh insayynatyy!"

Same, I'm not a native speaker though ...

Well we could start with a name...

It's so strange for me, having been born in 1988, to hear someone not know who this guy is, and this song.
I fully understand that it's been just about 30 years since this came out, and there are multiple generations of kids that will never have heard it that are fully grown adults now.
Its just that this song was not only massive, one that everyone knew, but it lived on way past its release date, it was played on radio, tv, used in films and tv shows (silicon valley is a recent one of note). The same band also had a meme based on the film "napolean dynamite" with the song canned heat, which the main character did a dance to that made it into games such as world of warcraft and fortnite.
The band is a part of pop culture, and despite it all, there are still places in the world where people dont know instantly what this picture is from and who that is.
I get it. It just boggles my mind how vast the world is. Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were. (Beatles are from liverpool in the north west of england and liverpool is littered with beatles murals, staturs and that kind of shit) its insane that anyone could not know who they are.
But hey ho. Just thinking out loud.
- Well it's possible people have heard the song and just not know where it is from. I've seen the music video in muted online clips about film production, but I don't think I've ever actually heard the music.
  I don't think I've ever heard the music and the video together at once so I wouldn't have made any connection. Assuming that you have heard the music because I have no idea what it would even sound like.
- Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were.
  I once head 20yis on the bus saying how lucky that old guy Paul McCartney was for being in Rihanna video, like, it'll really be a boost for his career...
- I only knew the song years ago from one single source which was a DDR game on Xbox. Born the same year too lol. Until my 20s I thought it was some obscure song with cheap to buy licensing for the game.
  In the last 5-10 years though I did see the music video for the first time and in the past couple years I have seen his name pop up several times at least.
  That's about it though. I guess I never really listened to music until my teens and any car radio was 70-80s rock or even older pop music.
- Also, little kids are going around in Nirvana t-shirts, so they can can all the “before my time” natter.
- I was born in 1988 as well; I just don't recognize most musicians by their faces. (Is that a normal thing to do?) No need for the freak out.
  Sorry for not always seeing every music video for every popular song. My bad, yo.
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity
https://youtu.be/4JkIs37a2JE
It's a very common name. Jamiroquai.

JK was inspired to write the song after he spent all night exploring a web ring - all of which were GeoCities sites with an “under construction” animated gif.

Oh jfc teletext.. now that's a blast from the past. used to love reading it lol

Yeah sometimes I wish the internet had never been invented and we all just kept using teletext.
i used to go on the jokes page. it was awesome. I miss teletext

Hah, one of those coincidences.

Just 2(?) weeks ago Virtual Insanity popped up on stream and I wondered if Jamiroquai are prophets now or the song is just way younger than I remember

I mean, I guess yea? They was already putting out 2 albums of classic modern soul before traveling without moving and the world couldn’t be bothered…

And yet you somehow think that all posters on the internet are being absolutely literal?
Was thinking earlier about how, before becoming prominent crypto-Zionists, Radiohead were singing about the numbing effect of working in a cubicle job as a tiny cog in the machine of a monolithic consumerist society, but then thought - didn’t this band form at public school, paid for by their parents, and might they possibly never have worked a 9-to-5 in their life? And could they be cashing in on the aesthetic of pre-millennial salaryman angst as seen in many movies of the time such as Office Space, Fight Club, The Matrix, American Beauty, etc etc?
Sabrina Carpenter clearly does. It all describes how much of a stuck up, insecure, bratty cunt monster she is anyway.

"Travel Without Moving". Appropriate way to describe VR, even if it's Dune quote.