Well, fuck you too.
Well, fuck you too.
Well, fuck you too.
Consent? That's just some woke word made up to damage family-owned businesses!
Them, probably.
To be fair, the founder of the business, Byju, used to be a very ordinary school teacher and then he built this whole thing. Not family-owned, nor born rich.
Fuck their business practices though
It's not a business website, I opened it for some random math article.
If they aren't doing business in the EU, they don't need to comply with GDPR. While it technically protects EU citizens' data everywhere, in practice it's not possible to govern companies that are completely outside the EU.
Why is it basically only the EU that seems to have an interest in preventing shitty business practices.
Because the US is controlled by corporations
Asia for the most part doesn't care
Australia is run by right wing nut jobs
New Zealand is quiet so they probably do do something like this but we haven't heard about it.
Japan is Japan. Civil rights isn't really a thing.
And China and Russia love invasion of privacy it's basically the entire basis of their countries.
Well actshually... Australia used to be run by right-wing nutjobs. The current mob in power are centrist nut jobs.
You forgot Africa, South America, Canada, Greenland(?).
I would like to point the RWNJs finally got voted out in Oz last year (federal and most states). Of course Murdoch and co. are working hard to reverse that, but semi sane leadership is in place for at least a year or two more.
As with most things in the US, California has similar laws to the gdpr (though admittedly not as powerful), so a lot of websites are starting to change a bit in the US because of california.
Moatly about capitalism i think. If you put on privacy restrictions, you are regulating the market, while capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself, and customers will simply stop using those websites/softwares overtime if its too bad. I find this completely delusional in the era of mega corporations, but thats the capitalistic aproach to this.
EU is capitalist, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe you're just another person blaming everything on capitalism because that's easier than understanding the actual problems. Might as well blame it on the prevalent system.
capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself
Anarcho-capitalism ⊊ capitalism.
Because they listen to people rather than ignore them and then make policy based on how much money they can make from the deal.
This shows me the EU is actually more democratic then the US is.
It's much harder to pay off the lawmakers to keep the status quo when the economic area is controlled by dozens of individual governments.
This is actually a particularly important point. The nature of the EU is laden with bureaucracy. Combined with the wide range of cultures, and the rotation of staff, it makes bribing enough people to get your way difficult. You end up needing people in multiple countries to deal with it, and the rotations make long term deals difficult.
The end result is that bribing EU bureaucracy is like trying to stop a river with just hands. It's far less effective, letting the EU be a lot more effective (if slow).
There's a reason so many big business interests want to break up the EU.
Brazil also has a similar law called LGPD, I think it was made based on European GDPR
Actually, and I'm quite proud of this, the LGPD was already being discussed before the EU's GDPR. It may not look like it, but Brazil is at the forefront of digital protection and privacy.
Yah, I just get Google to block these sites from ever being recommended again.
Is bribery political donations not a thing in Europe?
I want more predatory websites to do this so that I can avoid them.
Anyone out of the EU can VPN to an EU country and benefit.
Some idiots keep using one of my email adresses for god knows what, ending up in me receiving newsletters and shit. Since actual user accounts are associated, I typically recover the password (since its my email adress) and then delete the account.
There are a few websites with similar restrictions though. They are completely fine sending shit to email adresses they never bothered to verify, but reject logins from countries (or even US states!) that they don't want. Morons.
that's when you report as spam. that shit hurts their trust rating and makes their emails more likely to end up in people's spam folders, pretty much killing their newsletter
This is fine imo. If you don’t want to comply, don’t. You just don’t get to extract EU data
No it's not fine. Sometimes important reporting is only available on sites that pull crap like this. That's basically cutting people off from important information just because they live in a geographical region that doesn't allow secret malware.
Thank FSM for archive.ph and the like coming to the rescue, but not limiting people based on geography used to be a central part of the ethos of the internet and most sites wouldn't routinely serve you unwanted tracking cookies and adware.
Edit: what's with all the downvotes? I wouldn't expect a community like this to be so full of geoblocking fans
Poor strawman mate. You don't have to be "a geoblocking fan," you can despise it, while also not enabling privacy invasive firms.
cutting people off from important information just because they live in a geographical region that doesn't allow secret malware.
I think most disagree with your argument, that you need to tolerate 'secret malware' to access important information. That information can't be THAT important or else it could be found elsewhere, completely without malware.
Unfortunately you aren't automatically entitled to this information that I imagine mostly comes from private for-profit companies.
You always have the option of a VPN. That and private mode is probably a good best practice for a site like this anyway.
Yes, but it shows how they behave toward people who aren't in the EU.
Right, at least they are honest about it and - in a way- comply with GDPR by avoiding it.
Sadly, I live in the U.S., so if I went to this website, it would definitely take my data and sell it.
We don't get a GDPR to protect us. Be glad you do.
Wish it was that simple. The problem with the internet, as a whole, is someone figured out they can collect just about everything from your data, with or without cookies, and sell it to big companies.
Everything is about that almighty dollar. We are now the product under the guise of being a consumer.
You want to complain about access being blocked because of where you live, fine just makes you an easy commodity to sell to someone else.
Tbf, you want complete anonymity, stay off the web, don’t use bank accounts or credit cards, not even those like cash app, become a hermit and tell everyone to fuck off as you are not for sale.
In reality, it’s policies, like the GDPR, that are actually looking out for your best interest. Here in America the arguement would be “they’re taking away my freedom” or “the government is overreaching” instead of “Hey, someone actually cares about my privacy in the government!”
Like I have said in another group, people complain about their privacy online and then use the likes of chrome for their browser. We say we care about our privacy, but in the end we are a tool that doesn’t do the job we need done.
Cookies aren't nearly the only form of tracking.
Personal data is an enormous market in the US. Too many big players located here. It'd never happen unfortunately. We'd need to replace all of Congress with folks who actually care about rights and people instead of money. We have only a handful on the left and that's only in the house, and that's being generous. I haven't seen any attempts really on the right. So it'd be a long time until this is even remotely possible. I'd be amazed to see a senator actually care about people though. Or even a governor.
Don't forget the centrists, who want a happy medium between you being a product for someone else's money, and having privacy. Because, you know, a lack of privacy is totally cool or something...
EU for the win.
I wish more invasive websites would do this.
Trust me, you don't want to visit that website (company).Its sales and marketing methods are scam at best.
I need to know what this website is, so that I never use it.
It's actually in the screenshot. Kind of hidden though.
Land of the Free*
^(* Free is a trademark of BigCorp Inc. Terms and conditions may apply. Subject to availability.)
Cease using that slogan! Disney has lobbied a law into action that prohibits you from saying this!
The US culture is willing to sacrifice a lot to uphold the US way of doing free speech, which is absolutely fine. Yet, how worthy are those sacrifices when we see how "free speech l" gets eroded for profit and profit alone?
Just another lazy American company not wanting to protect user data and using GPDR as an excuse.
Sure it takes work to treat user data properly but from a consumer perspective it is the right thing to do. Throwing shade at Europe because you don't want to do it doesn't seem the most productive thing to do.
lazy American company
This company is headquartered in Bangalore.
Still lazy! ;)
"The solution is to just give up your rights to privacy, doy!"
Get a VPN.
Nah, I don't want to visit a site that publicly admits to invasive tracking.
Translation: We are not allowing you to use our services in the EU due to better data privacy laws than the US.
"Oh hey, our tracking is so invasive that it is illegal in your part of the world and we are too lazy to do something about it."
Dodged a bullet there. Thanks EU
I don't want to link to them because fuck them, though the current top comment contains a link to that site.
The interesting thing is that you get this error message on /us while when you remove it, you get redirected to /global and there is no such message. They went out of their way to collect the data of US citizens while still complying with the GDPR for other users.
Byjus is probably the second sussest company in India, so that checks out. They (sort of) sued banks that had lent them money for asking for it back.
How do you sort of sue someone?