New Study Shows Disposable Vapes Are Worse Than Cigarettes
New Study Shows Disposable Vapes Are Worse Than Cigarettes
Turns out the disposable nicotine delivery systems are, as suspected, worse than the real thing, according to a new study from researchers at UC Davis.
PLEASE stop using disposable vapes.
I quit cigarettes 10 yrs ago and had been exclusively using the old school refillable box mods. The kinds with big clouds, not the nic salts like disposables. I was doing fine, great even, for the last ten.
But this past year, after picking up those disposables, I kept having breathing problems. I would stop using them for like two weeks before I picked them up again. The cycle finally led to me going into atrial fibrillation, a cardiac emergency. Had to have my heart shocked. in my 30s!
I ended up quitting nicotine entirely now. it was surprisingly easy to quit! once you wanna do it, it's already done. as long as you don't mope about it and celebrate it instead. it's easier than the whiners would have you believe!
My grandfather wakes up in the hospital after his third heart attack. The Doc comes over and says "you'll need to stop smoking or else" and my grandad asked "or else what?" The Doc leaned forward and stared him dead in the eyes "Sudden death"
Apparently it worked. He said he never smoked after that
After i read "sudden death" in the smash announcer voice, i thought your grandpa was going to smack his doctor
Wow, congratulations for quitting. And thank you for spreading the message.
Can I ask: What caused you to go from refillable box to disposable? And what is the draw to them?Great question. I used both concurrently. The reason for the disposable: accessibility.
The old school vapes are just getting harder and harder to find. I had to order parts online. The juice companies were getting shut down. I didn't want to give up my addiction, and I felt so much better on vapes than i had on cigarettes, so I figured it was fine. (Nicotine alone is a bitch to your heart, though...)
I started trying out the disposables because they were readily available. I could pick one up anywhere, I didn't have to bring juice around with me, no giant batteries or kits to maintain on the go... and in exchange a much harsher hit.
this also led to me doubling my nicotine strength. I had been using 3mg juice for ovet a year by then, but all the disposables measure out to 6mg. Nothing weaker was available. had to switch to stronger stuff on the box mod.
it pisses me off how much they enshittified vaping. it was a really cool and helpful tool that got me off of tobacco. but they started targeting it at minors. instead of rich savory flavors you get all this fruity menthol crap that middle schoolers like. you get tiny vapes with flashy blinking light and fixed high potency. you get bans on it, and regulations/fees so strict that indie vape companies that started this shit for people like me now have to shut down.
oh well. it was all a facade anyway. nicotine itself is the problem. it pushes your systems into overdrive and then wears you out on seconds, until you cant even be at homeostasis without nicotine in your system. the joy of smoking is just the temporary relief of withdrawal. it's like wearing a pair of tight shoes just so you can enjoy taking them off for 5 minutes. I'm done living my life in withdrawals. so happy to be free! (and it was honestly fucking easy, you all can do it too)
Plus those disposables create massive amounts of e-waste.
*New study shows one brand of disposable vapes causes higher lead exposure than cigarettes
The researchers tested flavored and “clear” versions of three of the most popular products — Esco Bar, Flum Pebble, and ELF Bar — and found “excessive emissions of toxic metallic elements” in the aerosols from each of them.
All three of which are from the same company. I'm not seeing any information there about where these are manufactured, but if I guessed China, I probably wouldn't be wrong.
Are any not made there?
Eta: I'm not sure this is a manufacturer as much as a dealer.
Oh yeah, that's what I meant. I'm sure they're not making them themselves. They're sourcing them from overseas somewhere for sure.
How are they from the same company? To me it looks like different companies
if you're hooked on nicotine and you havent tried them, then give nicotine pouches a try. i switched to them from vaping and all the asthma went away overnight. plus no one knows when you've got one under your lip
Do they offer low-nicotine ones to wean off? Or are you just limiting yourself to oral cancers instead of oral, lung, etc.?
Yes, they do offer them in varying levels of nicotine. I decided about a month ago to stop vaping after doing it daily for 10 years. Ordered some patches and some gum, and while I was waiting on those I tried the pouches. They do work and you can get them in lower strengths to wean yourself off.
If your goal is to quit nicotine entirely, be careful that you don't just fully swap one addiction for another. I'm still working on getting off of the pouches, but it's getting better, and my lungs feel so much better now.
I find the pouches really easy to quit cold turkey, so there's not really a need to ween off once you've switched to them, but it is an option with pouches ranging from stupidly high to almost no nicotine content. It does suck for the first day not using them, but by day 3 I've completely forgotten they exist. Totally different experience quitting pouches vs a vape.
I've quit and picked up the habit several times, mainly because they're so easy to quit that I don't see a huge harm in using them again after a long period without. I wouldn't touch a vape again because it was such an effort and pain to quit.
Also nicotine isn't a carcinogen (tobacco is), and nicotine pouches are not linked to any cancer risk. Nicotine is basically as harmful as caffeine.
Nicotine products in general have been linked to reproductive harms such as stillbirth, premature birth, and low birth weight. Conversely, non-tobacco-based nicotine pouches (also known as "nic pouches") are classified as non-carcinogenic since nicotine itself is not a carcinogen. However, they are still harmful to cardiovascular health due to their nicotine content, and are associated with moderately higher risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and reproductive harms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus
Nicotine itself is currently classified as non-carcinogenic according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and according to the Royal College of Physicians nicotine in itself is not a hazardous drug. In turn, it is hypothesized that if nicotine can be delivered without tobacco and smoke inhalation, most, if not all of the harm of smoking can be avoided. However, if not carcinogenic, nicotine is still moderately harmful to cardiovascular health, therefore long-term use of non-tobacco nicotine pouches very likely causes higher risks for cardiovascular diseases, stroke, and reproductive harms.
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To help put things in perspective, the researchers compared the health risks of disposable e-cigarettes to other types of smoking, and found that Esco Bar devices released more lead during a day’s use than 19 packs of traditional cigarettes.
This is salt based liquid though
And? The metals come from the metal components of the vaporizer itself.
Fortunately there is a 100% natural plant based alternative to vaping.
"Smoke"
Since the toxins are transmitted via the aerosols: can there something be said about the effect on involuntary "passive smokers"?
Fuck, how difficult could it be to create a system that heats water above evaporation temperature without releasing toxic metals in the process. Incredible.
They make ceramic type coil systems. Idk if they are any better.
I'm not saying vapes are good, not at all. I'm quite sure the opposite in fact. However I believe any attempt to publicly dismiss them is paid for by big tobacco
We report excessive emissions of toxic metallic elements in aerosols from flavored and “clear” versions of three popular products (Esco Bar, Flum Pebble, and ELF Bar), orders of magnitude higher in concentration than traditional cigarettes and other e-cigarettes.
So they tested more than three but found these for three in particular had problems.
They also don't compare cancer risks to the rest of the tars versus heavy metal this is metal vs metal.
I got dv'd to the ninth circle of hell for saying this, some months ago. I wouldn't have said it if my Dr hadn't said they had the opportunity to look at deceased smoker's lungs next to deceased vaper's lungs. I left out that part, but still.
The smoker lungs may have had more tar build up and scarring, you cant necessarily visually see the lead and other heavy metals from vaping on the vapers lungs, especially if those are entering the bloodstream and being distributed throughout the body.
Doc said they were atrophied and scarred. Listen, my health is on me, everyone else's is on them. I shared what information I have from a verified source, if people reject it, they will have to deal with any consequences, just as I will.
"Drinking poison may be a mistake, but that doesn't mean you escape the consequences." Duquette
Weed vapes are healthy tho right? :/
Who fucking cares. If you are dumb enough to do the shit, then die.
The closest thing you should hit to one of those is a pulsar 420dl.
Weed carts > niccy capes any day.
Especially if you got a good source on dabs so you can make you own.
If you've got a good source of dabs, abandon the carts and get a concentrate vape like the pax 3 with concentrate adapter. The carts often have cheap heating elements with lots of nasty stuff contaminating them.