Also, they already had a deal with the US before Trump voided it

And it was never supposed to be nukes right? It was like chemical weapons or something.

The CIA knew it was bullshit but Cheney wanted there to be WMDs so chose to believe bullshit artists instead, if John Kiriakou is to be believed. One of the only times in history where CIA might have been the good guys.

I'm just saying that even organizations that were lying about Iraqi WMD are not doing it now.

I mean hey, your username is on point for your opinion here but uh, no.

No, Netanyahu in particular has been stating Iran will have a nuke in months since about 1995.

Go check the Daily Show's (or maybe its Jon Stewart's?) YT channel for a quick montage recap of Bibi literally claiming this ssme thing for 30 fucking years.

It is 30 years later, and even the official consensus of the US's own intelligence communities is that Iran does not have a nuke, cannot achieve enrichment beyond about 60%.

And that only even happened because Trump trashed Obama's deal with Iran to keep enrichment to only low grade, nuclear power plant levels... which was working, and they were adhering to, and letting the IAEA in to verify.

Meanwhile they are being bombarded by a hostile nation state that has had nuclear weapons since roughly 1970, that constantly does everything it can to lie about that, to prevent IAEA inspectors from being assigned to them.

That nation state is Israel, if that wasn't clear.

So... Iran was previously cooperative and diplomatic.

Then Trump was a backstabbing, bellicose buffoon, and Iran... didn't even revert to MAD, they reverted to roughly 2 steps below MAD, as you'd have to run the 60% enriched uranium through an entire other industrial process to get it to weapons grade, which no one believes they can currently do, and then make that into actual bombs, which is a whole other thing entirely.

The Iranians have already shown themselves to be quite capable of rational negotiations about nukes, and adhere to agreements.

It is Israel and the US who have been irrational, agressive and underhanded, who have gone back on their word, and forced Iran into an impossible situation from their POV.

We could just maybe not act like insane warmongers, and Iran would likely go back to the negotiating table... us assuring them we will stop assasinating their negotiators might be a good first step.

Do you always advocate preemptive punishment for crimes that have not actually been committed ("yet")?

And frankly, I didn't trust any of the nuclear powers, especially not the US. Fuck sake we have an orange dementia patient in charge!

Israel is committing a genocide, no one seems to be disrupting them.

to disrupt their program.

Why? There is no evidence at all that they're trying to build a nuclear bomb, yet you're taking the side of these guys.

actually have them.

100% unironically: yes. I’ll tell you why. The US already has them and has used them on civilians twice already.

I don't think my nation has the right to control what other nations do through military force.

We do it, but I don't think we should

I was a young teen when it happened and it just seemed ridiculous that anyone would be naïve enough to fall for the extremely obvious lies.