Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service

welp I signed up for the waitlist.

I'll use it for a disposable email at first, and if it endures and does well I'll move my main shit off to it.

Out of all the articles and the official release announcement, you could share, you shared forbes which violate people privacy.

Why?

I'm listening...

But how is a small non-profit going to afford a free email service? Ads in every email?

I think it's incredibly important that people know, with absolute certainty, whether or not the new Mozilla/Firefox privacy policy in any way applies to / covers such a service.

I'm not saying I know the answer- What I'm saying without a concrete, permanently applied answer it's not even considerable.

I'd consider it. If they host things outside of the US/start moving operations overseas, it'd be a lot more interesting. I sub to Proton for email, VPN, and drive support. Still hoping someday for proper Linux drive support so Mozilla/Thunderbird can target that

No matter how much I hate Mozilla's new path, companies like this challenging big tech are bold and have a lot of courage. If I set aside my personal op opinions about Mozilla, I actually admire them for this. They can actually dent big tech with funding from big tech itself.

Thunderbird Pro will apparently be:

This email thing plus Thunderbird Send (which is basically https://send.vis.ee/), Thunderbird Appointment - a scheduling tool and Thunderbird Assist, which is:

"...at least for now, being cautiously labeled as “an experiment” that will allow users to take advantage of AI features within their email. However, the goal is to be lightweight enough that the language models can be run locally on a user’s PC in the interest of privacy. This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy."

So AI shit that nobody asked for or wants.

If this works out it might be a nice place to migrate to away from my self-hosted e-mail provided they eventually let you bring your own domain. Just sucks that e-mail is essentially the most secure thing you need to have since compromising that can compromise every account attached to the e-mail. That’s a lot of trust you need to instill in your e-mail host.

I hope to god one day the developers at Mozilla finally get tired of this shit and fork everything under a new org.

Fuck off with more services and give me my integrated FTP client back. No one who uses Mozilla software wants more cloud shit or online services from Mozilla.

I was thinking ab this being april fool bcz it's posted on 1st...

Here's what I want.... I leave a computer on at home and it checks my email. I get emails from it at my phone. No setup. Make it work like Sinkthing used to work. I don't want cloud anything. Fucking backup nightmare where my shit ends up kidnapped by a company for monthly ransom.

Lol sure destroy all the trust with your users THEN launch an email service. Hard pass fro me.

I guarantee you they're already planning to train an LLM on everybody's emails, or at least sell them to AI companies doing training.

If its not zero access its just more ameritech bullshit.

I have a 20ish year old history in my Gmail account organized in labels and all that. I wonder if it will be viable to migrate?

Archive link for anyone else for whom that article crashed their tab.

I looked at this but it asked me to download it. Can I access it through a browser like I can Google?

Yet thunderbird still can't single click open an email in a new window. If I recall correctly the request has been filed in 2014 or smt 💀

People still use Email???