Exactly, even minus the Nazi thing they are terrible products.
And they’ve been terrible for a while.
The only good things were the first mover advantage, battery tech and supercharger network.
Meanwhile the competitors like BYD have caught up.
I’ve always been a bit disturbed at the sheer volume of telemetry they collect.
I was happy that Tesla existed, as it helped give the auto industry the kick in the pants it needed, but I can never see myself actually buying one. My next car won’t be domestic.
I was at a Buc-cee's today, an incredibly busy spring break Saturday. The entire row of Tesla chargers were all lined up pointed nose out, with most of them occupied, watching the people and cars in front of them.
I drove past them slowly, giving the bird the entire way. I don't know how many saw, but a few must have.
It was childish and petty, but satisfying. I regret nothing.
I'd buy one if Musk was ousted. Despite what the internet would have you believe, they're pretty decent cars and there's still not really a lot of competition if you look at it dollar for dollar. But as long as Musk had any say in the company I absolutely wouldn't buy one.
I Would fucking love an affordable EV kit for Jeep wrangler TJs. While we’re dreaming, Honda Goldwings/Valkyries also, though that couldn’t start from a Tesla. I really want an electric motorcycle with a more classic road bike look instead of a sport bike.
Not even with Musk's money. No wait, that's not true, I'd have someone paint Musk's face on a dummy, put it in the driver's seat, and autopilot that shit into a landfill somewhere with as many cameras filming it as I could get on short notice.
But to be clear, somewhere over the last 20 years it seems I've also fallen out of the middle class? I bought a new car fresh out of college, and then again about 10 years later. But I look at the price of new cars today, and they're simply not a purchase I can afford. So, it looks like I'm not going to be buying any new cars anymore, Tesla or otherwise. That feels weird.
No. I have a 2021 model 3 that I bought in 2022. If I sold it, it'd be at a loss since I still have a loan for it. Back then it was still the car to get for the money.
Even if you're one of the troglodytes who is fine with Musks fascist politics, the risk of getting your car vandalized would be problematic. I dont know now why anyone would buy a tesla anymore. Other cars have full self driving too, while tesla does not, although they've been promising to have it soon for 8 years now. They are not the technology leader in that area. Waymo, Cruise, and Mobileye are all far ahead of Tesla.
I honestly don't understand why people are protesting this way. Most Tesla owners bought their car before they knew Elon was that kind of crazy, myself included. The value of my Tesla has dropped below what I owe, and selling it would hurt me financially, but then at the same time it would provide a really great deal for a conservative that really supports Trump/Musk.
The most effective protest would be to not buy a new one and not sell your current one. Lack of used Tesla's available would mean used price goes up, but then lack of new sales would mean new price would need to go down. There will always be people buying a new Tesla, but low sales would hurt the stock price and lower cost would hurt the profit margin.
I did test drive the new model Y. I like it, but I wouldn't get FSD because it's dangerous. I like that it's one of the most American made vehicles. I'm not going to buy it because of Elon.
You can't put people in jail for not selling or buying a Tesla. Why not just protest that way?
I think you can voice your opinion and then take action by not taking action.
Here is what I've noticed:
Trade in values are much lower, but I've been monitoring carvana and Tesla's sites and the sale prices haven't really gone down. These companies are all profiting from the protest and using it as an excuse.
New cars being destroyed are just going to get bought by the insurance companies. Tesla would just match a buyer to a new VIN so it doesn't really affect them.
Protestors destroying cars is not a good look. They will focus only on these people's actions and not Elon.
Here is an example:
There is a store near my house I used to go to all of the time, but one day I was reading the Google reviews and people were saying the owner/employees were kicking Chinese people out and told them they need to go back to their country and that they are the reason for covid. They were also negative to many other non white customers that had similar situations, so I just decided not to shop there. Now they put signs around the neighborhood because they are open and people stopped going there. The signs don't say the name of the store and only have the address. No physical damage done, but they are feeling it.
I honestly don’t understand why people are protesting this way.
I can help connect the dots. I imagine its because if car buyers are scared their new tesla will go up in flames, they wont buy a tesla, tesla will go under, and elon wont be as rich.
In terms of villainy this is nothing compared to the stuff Musk and Trump are doing, so if I was in a jury judging one of the vandals of tesla I would probably let them go (unless they hurt someone in the act).
At the end of the day its just a car. A piece of property. Consumer junk. This is vandalism, like spray painting a wall. Its not like the vandals are cutting social securty and starving people or sending ammunition to Israel to kill civilians.