European alternatives to Google's Gmail

Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.

Oh nice hadn't heard of KMail and I'm trying to degoogle. Proton's fine but the owner is another tool so options are nice

Oh it's KDE even better

"Needs client app" is a funny way of saying it "supports open protocols as first class citizens".

No Nazi supporters please

You don’t need a client app for mailbox.org? I use it just fine on any standard mail client.

mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.

Just a quick notice about proton here. While it is great, if you tend to forget your passwords be carefull beacuse you will lose all your mail history when you recover. I would reccomend something more casual for casual users.

Proton, no thanks to the Government of Putin supporters. Tuta could be the winner for me.

I switched over to Proton a few weeks ago, so far so good. They had my name available so no more weird convoluted email address anymore yay!

Proton

Been using mailbox.org for a couple of years and I'm quite happy with it. Don't know what "needs client app" is supposed to mean though. If you don't want to use a mail client you can use the web interface. I've used maildroid on Android with it and when it was discontinued switched to Thunderbird, both work fine with mailbox.org.

There's one tiny minor annoyance, they somehow automatically create a new "archive" folder for every year that the web interface uses when you hit the archive button but in your mail client you gotta change the preferences manually once a year. Don't know if you can change but it's such a minor inconvenience I never bothered to check.

Tuta has been GREAT, so far. Hard recommend.

Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.

https://disroot.org/en

From their page:

“Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.

No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”

I tried

• Proton - too expensive
• Tuta - too limited
• infomaniak - i like it, but also limited

Created new domain name in cloudflare and got free account at zoho. It's free badic account, but with a symbolic gesture of 0.9 euro a month, you also get smtp, IMAP etc... and it plays very well with cloudflare!

It might not be for everyone but you could grab a domain + webspace for like 2€/month.

Been using Posteo since around 2015. They're great.

Why is Kmail in there?

Kmail is a client: it can't host.

• only web app
• needs client app

What's up with that misleading information as if there's something missing? This just means you can use any mail application you want with the standard mail protocols IMAP and POP3. If a mail provider is offering an app themselves that's fine but that's nothing a mail provider HAS to offer. What's much more important is how they handle you data, how good they filter out spam, how big you mailbox can be, cost, sustainability etc. But the app is the least important thing.

I switched from gmail to gmx mail. I like it very much.

https://mailfence.com/ Belgian, 1Gb

https://www.gmx.com/ German Restrictions: 50MB attachments. Require an alternate email to sign up.

Mailbox.org costs 2gb 1€ in light plan

I made the switch from gmail to Tuta. It's very good. Has desktop app as well as mobile. Highly recommend.

What does "only web app" mean for posteo? Can you not use it with a standard mail app?

I tried posteo and eclipso before settling on mailbox.org.

Coming from gmail.

I am using Proton for many years and I can not be happier. They are adding features and new services every month. Fully recommend . If you want to try the email plus you can use my referral: https://pr.tn/ref/W467S6SS1VP0

Cheers

Buy a domain and just use a ISP of your choice, don't lock in again with another domain not under your control.

GMX

Zero complaints.

I'm happy with the Belgian mailfence

migadu.com

@Blaze @yunohost and @coopcloud allow you to self host.

Runbox.com! I've been using them for years after Lavabit was shutdown. Based out of Norway, affordable, and privacy focused.

@Blaze @yunohost and @coopcloud allow you to self host.

I'm using Soverin myself. Switched a few months back and they've been great so far

I think it would also be worth to mention Zoho mail, they're mainly focused on the business side, but they do offer it for free as well up to some point.

Zoho also offers quite a few clones of Google products as a service too.

Quick edit: Forever free plan: Free up to 5 users (5GB/user). One free custom domain (in other words, bring your own domain if you have one!)

I use eclipso.de. it's free with ads or i think 1€ a month premium

I've been happy with Belgian based mailfence.com for 4+ years on one of their paid plans.

I have an e-mail adres with my domain name, but my personal mail is still Gmail. However I'm looking into changing that. I'm thinking about proton mail but I'm not sure yet. I'm trying to do research into what's best long term.

Anyone tried https://www.codamail.com/ ?

Anyone got experience with kMail?

Mailo from France is another option

If what you want is encrypted email, and see it in the form of a chat, take a look at ArcaneChat

Really wanted Email.CZ to work but it sticks on verifying my phone for my account :(

Where is Startmail? It is the best e-mail service in the EU. It is not free, but you are not its bargaining chip so.

Thanks for the list