'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France

I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.

edit: I did say political

Canada seriously needs to make a big show of offering the same thing. It's now or never.

I left the US for Germany almost 2 years ago now. I'm a software/aerospace engineer. It was like time traveling to the future in some ways, worker right are way better here and 6 weeks of vacation has cemented that I'll never go back.

Now I just need to do my part to make sure conservatives don't ruin this country any more than they already have. Not excited for Merz to get into power and continue selling out his country.

I'm doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I'm a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I'm done letting the US profit off my skills though

Myself included lol.

Moi même aussi lol

I feel like the amount of stupid per unit volume in America is indeed increasing.

Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven't been back since.

Can some of y’all flee to Canada instead?

We have French Canada if your dead set on speaking French.

I wish I was a scientist so I could go too.

And frankly, this is just another parallel to WWII and Nazi Germany's rise. The non-fascist scientists and people fled to safer pastures.

The atmosphere is nearly perfect for an EU resurgence. American workers potentially willing to leave is only one piece of it. You also have interest in drawing together as a continent against a new shared enemy. Hell even Germany is ready to drop their spending limitations to actually try to rise to the occasion.

I really wish they'd take it a step further and pump heavy investment into the region - and not just defense. Isn't it exactly the right time to build European industries to replace the American ones they are no longer sure they can trust?

$16M for 3 scientists for 3 years? I hope those scientists are bringing their whole labs with them?

Back in 1945 you know how many people America took in who did any kind of scientific work. wernher von braun may be the most famous. That was just to insure that America would be leaders in the world. Now it doesn't seem America wants to have anything to do with leading the world in any field to progresses america as a country.

This French university made the news on scientific news sources a week or so ago when they announced this, I thought it was a fluke... glad to see they are getting applicants

Of course, I am fully aware that this is just one isolated case since US-based academics would never think of applying for European positions. Most US-based academics would never know resources such as EURAXESS which hosts many academic positions in Eurozone and beyond, or jobrxiv dot org which also includes lots of European academic positions. This is not mentioning country-specific resources such as when I was lurking on jobbnorge dot no for Norwegian jobs, and a personal communication I had with someone at University of Gothenburg who was literally asking me where to look for US-based postdoctoral applicants...

Anyway what was I saying

Y'all need data analysts?

Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

I know a guy...

I was planning to try and immigrate to Europe from the shithole country I was born into. The last thing I need is Americans competing with me for the same. Grrrrr

Makes me wonder where all that money is going? I mean they must be making billions in those funding cuts. Are they all gonna funnel that money into Russia and tech oligarch's pockets?

Need any IT?

Take me with you, I'm neither an average fighter nor a brilliant scientist, but you can't live a trans-sister to die in this wasteland of burgers and guns!

France is crushing it lately it seems.

pardonnez-moi, puis-je vous intéresser à un programmeur?

til paperclip in French is trombone, as the instrument, i see some resemblance

The low prospects of jobs for undergrad who don't have enough experience for grad schools also turns people completely away from being a scientists to, unless you have research published or significant experience in lab work prior to graduating you won't get far, it's also harder to get into them health, like

If only I had money....

I suddenly like a lot of things about France.

I have a vps with OVH which is French, and pretty great.

I'll 100% sign up with eutel (?) satellite internet if it's ever available here.

I've also been using mistral l, a French LLM, to draft some documents lately.

It will take me sometime to save enough money, but once I do I am fleeing as well.

I'd like to see numbers at scale. I don't see too many people taking pay cuts yet

Aix Marseille University

It's not the best place or they want to attract some people for a better reputation after COVID issues.

Raoult is know full conspiracy theories.

Aw shiz, now when it turns out US scientists don't know sciency stuff because hustle culture

I'm looking forward to hearing all the people that say raising taxes would lead to all the talented people leaving the country addressing this.*

Realistically I understand that they're all talentless lying bastard failsons that just wanted to make more passive income from their family's wealth and no journalist will ever challenge them on it.

Good for us. Very very good for us.

Idk if this has anything to do with the Article focusing on France, but I recently learnt Gizmodo was bought by a French-Swiss company.

Lol calling this brain drain is ridiculousnin my opinion. Nazi germany didntnhave brain drain, they also removed the peoplenwho didnt think like they wanted them to.

We deserve this.