6mo ago

Xenia doesn't like Systemd

196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone

BomberMan9865 @sh.itjust.works

6mo ago

Xenia rule

196 @pawb.social

HarmlessCake @discuss.tchncs.de

6mo ago

Xenia rule

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- Average journalctl avoider
Oh hey a Linux furry. Never seen that on Lemmy before
- A transfem Linux furry. Completely unheard of on Lemmy.
  
  my pearls.
- Xenia is about as old as Tux, and was proposed as a Linux mascot back in the 90's
  She's actually been parr of quite a few memes on here, so, now you're in it too :)
  
  I read the title and thought it referred to Xenia the Xbox 360 emulator which recently gained Linux support, that didn't make sense.
I still don't know what people use to create services other than systemd
If you're writing bash scripts you're basically replicating a lot of the functionality of systemd but with larger foot guns
- The system V init approach did the job fine for a couple of decades—even if the actual service definitions were a glorified shell switch statement as you insinuate.
  Canonical did their upstart thing for a couple of years that wasn't too bad to use, personally I'm glad they ended up switching to systemd though.
  
  Abaci and mechanical differentiators did the job just fine for a couple centuries.
- All of them are worse in my experience. In a embedded context I use busybox init and if I need something more I used systemd. Systemd actually has a fairly small footprint. A few years ago I ran it on a system with 32mb of ram.
  
  Guix_SD has its own init system, Gnu shepherd
- We can use dinit, s6, runit, and openrc.
  There are more, but these are all top contenders.
  I switched to dinit recently, it uses declarative service management (like systemd unit files). Very clean, fast, lightweight, and portable.
cringe
- Yeah, more like "cringe deez nuts."
  
  fair point
furry
hates systemd
thinks anyone still uses PulseAudio
Three wrong opinions in such a short post, impressive.
- How is furry an opinion?
  And how can an opinion be wrong?
  You can not say someone is wrong hating someone/something, if they do it, it is a fact and if not, it is a lie. And you have no way proving that.
  And lastly, thinking that most people use PulseAudio is a supposed fact, which can be true or false, but is not an opinion neither.
  But you can definitely say that your opinion is that furry as a culture is wrong, that hating systemd is wrong and that thinking anyone still uses PulseAudio is wrong.
  I must add, you have strange opinions…
  
  Well, opinions can be wrong. When someone says an opinion is wrong they don't mean that it's not true that you have that opinion, but rather that it's an opinion you should not have.
  And some opinions like any other ideas are just wrong. You are entitled to have them, just as much as you are entitled to be wrong, it doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.
  For example "we should change math so that 25+75=100" is an example of a wrong opinion.
- calling furries wrong opinions in a Linux community
  That's a bold move Cotton let's see if it pays off
I don't get all the hate for systemd. Chop Suey is an absolute banger.
ngl I quite enjoy using systemd
Was gonna ask what's wrong with Systemd but decided to look it up and I now see why, at least from what I was reading.
- I mean, if you want an init (e.g. embedded linux), sysd may not be way you want. On desktops, tho, you ultimately end up hacking together more or less the same functionality with sticks'n'shit. And yes, sysd timers are more readable than crontab, sue me.
  Edit: the point is, sysd is not (only) an init.
- It's fine, people will whine about anything.
I hace a Xenia sticker on a machine that enthusiastically runs SysD.
- Well you shouldn't. Take it off immediately, systemd or the sticker, either will do. She's stated her position on the matter, and you should respect that!
  (/jk I'm not actually having a go at you, stickers are cool, and systemd is pervasive)
Ah, thanks for the reminder! As a happy systemd user I sometimes forget how stubbornly resentful some people in the Linux community are that they still try to keep this up as a topic. Then again, maybe this is just a troll?
Systemd is great
I love Podman Quadlets
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