At least we kept bLuEmAGa from being in power! That would have been MUCH worse!/s
At least we kept bLuEmAGa from being in power! That would have been MUCH worse!/s
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Bruh that's crazy about that dude's virginity
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I'm so confused, why is that there.
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I'm actually less concerned with the OP but more with how George Takei feels the need to double down on it
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It looks to me like a joke about not getting laid.
But it’s extra silly because it’s a dude talking about his virginity growing back, when afaik that phrase probably referred to a woman’s hymen growing back after a long dry spell (which would also have been a joke).
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I think it's a reference about how fucked we are about to be. Like Madonna sang... like a virgin.
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I think if it's growing back that's a sign of very little fucking going on. And I'm not sure which Madonna song you're referring to, but if it's American Pie by Don McLean, that song is about the plane crash that killed Buddy Holly.
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I was also on the side of vote for Kamala fix it after because with Trump fixing is impossible with Kamala maybe. But whenever I see stuff like
45 Democrats Vote With GOP to Pass Bill Sanctioning ICC Over Netanyahu Warrant
Senate Overwhelmingly Rejects Sanders Resolutions to Block Arms Sales to Israel
it makes me doubt how feasible this approach would be too. Sure Kamala is factors of magnitude better than Trump for the USA, for Ukraine, for LGBTQ people, for women etc. But I can understand a US citizen with roots in the middle east etc not voting for Democrats after seeing disgusting stuff like this.
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"PATRIOT Act" passed Senate 98 to 1. Partisanship is for complete morons.
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45 democrats didn’t vote the way you want? And how many republicans didn’t? Are you really saying both sides are the same?
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No they are not but I am convinced that about 2/3 of the democrats don't give a shit about the party they are a member of nor its voters. If their only opportunity was to be a republican candidate they would jump at that opportunity without any internal moral conflicts. And I understand how frustrating it must be when a majority of a party that you are told to vote for has no moral issues with bombing a country where your relatives live to the ground.
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45 out of 215 Democrats voted for that or around 21% vs 90% of Republicans. This means that the crazy option is wildly unpopular and would never pass under a democrat. I'm not seeing the problem here.
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45 out of 215 Democrats voted for that or around 21% vs 90% of Republicans.
21% of Democratic voters voting for Republican candidates would be completely unacceptable. Why is it ok for 21% of our representatives to vote for genocide?
Oh right. It's ok when it's the only thing centrists actually want.
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ignores voters
loses election
"heh, stupid voters"
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At least centrists didn't have to move left.
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This is like being smug because you let the dog shit inside to make a point about how you never wanted a dog in the first place.
At least your purity is intact, and that's what matters most.
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Nobody let a dog shit anywhere. Trump gained like 3 million votes compared to last time, and Harris/Biden lost like 6 million. You want to blame someone, blame the 77 million openly fascist voters, not the < 1 million third party voters who didn't make up a sixth of the difference that your genocidal candidate lost by. The fact that you want to go online and pontificate about how the real activists cost the election, when they didn't, just shows that for you this is all about your ego and has nothing to do with justice or making a better world. You can't even take responsibility for the absolute monster you did vote for. You can't even get the facts of the situation straight, that's how much you really care.
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Yes, they got to maintain their rightwing purity.
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More brilliant political analysts who still haven't managed to figure out the reason both parties near-unanimously support genocide. Have a downvote, on me.
Also, Dems lost, what was it, 10x as many votes as people who voted third party?
And notice where your outrage is actually directed here. Not at the people who actually VOTED for Trump. It's at the people who refused to compromise their morals AT ALL, unlike you all, who completely compromised your morals in a failing bid to elect Mrs. "Genocide With A Facelift".
Fuck Republicans, fuck Democrats. That moral superiority you so desperately want to claim, does not exist. You are the problem. You are the driving force behind the empire. You are responsible for their deaths. Take your attempt to blame actual activists and people actually struggling to make the world a better place, and shove it right up your ass.
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Fuck the Republicans and fuck the Democrats, sure. But voting is about politics, not making a personal moral statement. That kind of thinking is dumb as fuck and would have been self defeating in every election since George Washington. Politics is always about compromise, and compromise about issues that matter is always a punch in the gut. Effective activism is about winning what you can, taking the hits, and showing up to do it again and again.
Voters who had a choice between two candidates that both support a genocide are not responsible for that genocide. I know a few things about moral reasoning, and no moral system I'm aware of would ever come to such an insane conclusion.
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That kind of thinking is dumb as fuck
Your tired analysis fails to take into account the voting behavior of the ENTIRE POPULATION. You myopically focus on a prefabricated two choices available to each individual in the society, assuming the rest of the society is a GIVEN, and then it follows from that faulty premise that one of those two choices is strategic. But you fail to take into account that the entire society is free to vote for anyone. The fact that they can demonstrates the simple fact that IT'S A BAD IDEA TO VOTE FOR A BAD CANDIDATE.
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Politics is always about compromise, and compromise about issues that matter is always a punch in the gut.
When was the last time Republicans compromised leftward in any meaningful way?
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You got the downvotes but not from me! Fuck these people. They’re so fucking dumb it’s painful.
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I hope you're happy with the Trump administration you helped elect. If you end up in a camp, you can impress everyone with your moral purity
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Oh look it’s a mask off liberal
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If you end up in a camp, you can impress everyone with your moral purity
No one's going to trust centrists with their escape plans.
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You are the one here who's concerned with imaginary moral purity. I am the one concerned with the actual consequences of this system. I will not take lessons in morality from somebody on the wrong side of a genocide.
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I mean you guys elected that asshole..
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Privatized gains, socialized losses except instead of losing money, your daughters die of a miscarriage in the waiting rooms of hospitals
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For a second I thought I saw my name and was confused what this had to do with me :-D
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Won't be 4 years.
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Right, this is definitely going to be a life sentence.
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Are you implying this doesn't have an effect on THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD???
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No, but at least you guys have your own (hopefully) functioning independent governments to at least try to blunt some of the damage/issues or come together with each other
The best we got are the state governments, but what they can do is... limited
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I have two fists
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Missed the point again award. If people want to vote for conservatives, they're going to vote for conservatives, not conservatives lite. If people want to vote for leftists, they're going to vote third party, vote for the dipshit threatening to tear it all down, or stay home, not vote for conservatives lite. If you'd take a few seconds to really use your noggin, you'd understand that people are fucking drowning and desperate for a change. Not "lol the guys at the Goldman Sachs fundraiser said we should think about a 1% COLA for social security", I'm talking burn the house down and start over change. There's a reason why there's the phenomenon of the Obama-Bernie-Trump voter or Bernie-Trump voter. It's not the sexism, it's the promise of change. Obama failed to deliver, and Bernie didn't happen, which just leaves us with that fucking guy. The democrats miscalculated twice and thought that voters surely wouldn't vote for that fucking guy over their promise of change so mild that even fox news would get bored. It's not the voter's fault that the democrats failed to put forward a good platform. To the Democratic party and the people towing this line, I say: voters don't owe you victory. In fact, voters don't owe you a goddamn thing. Stop blaming them and get your shit together or get out of the way.
When Democrats move to the right in order to capture conservative votes, conservatives don't believe they're sincere. But the left does.
I don’t even want the democrats to get their shit together. I want them to get the fuck out of the way. That party needs to go the way of the fucking whigs.
Very fucking right. It's toe the line though if you're interested in improving things in a very small way.
I've heard that before, but tow the line, as in to pull something by a tether, makes contextual sense to me. Folks are doing work trying to carry that argument.
The AOC+Trump voters would also fall into that category
Yes to all of this. Neolibs in this thread are really pressed.