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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warns of potential impact of 2024 election

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Everybody is warning us of the impact of the election. They've been warning us for years.

The problem is that Americans stood up and either said "We know. We just don't care.", or "We know. We want it that way."
- 22% of America said Fuck America, and thus we were fucked.
- After briefly speaking to one of my younger (white, male, most likely straight, but turns out he's prob an "enlightened centrist") co-workers earlier today, it seems like there are people who just don't believe it can happen.
  
  He told me that "both sides have their propaganda" when I asked if he's read Project 2025. I wanted to scream.
  
  The conversation literally ended with me telling him that this has happened before. He said, yeah, but not here. I was like, we're not special. Such a disappointing conversation. Ruined my day/night. Literally used the "it will never happen here" line.
  
  This is a man with a STEM degree. He's not stupid.
  
  I think there are a lot of people who are in for a shock when the shit really starts hitting the fan.
- Then you've got the "Did Joe Biden step down?" crowd just completely oblivious lol.
  
  In the aftermath the number of fuckwits I saw not voting or voting against their own interests has been insane.
  
  Socialists sitting out because of Gaza.
  
  Black women complaining Trump won but not voting.
  
  Working class woman whose husband is in a union and he himself voted Harris; whose son is gay... Yep, she voted Trump.
  
  I'm so tired of trying to drag along stupid people.
- Or we know but don't think it'll actually happen
Just remember, America. You voted for what's coming. You asked for it and so you have no one to blame but yourselves.

They told you exactly what they are planning to do.
- The problem isn't that America voted for this. Only 21% of the country voted for Trump.
  
  The problem is that America didn't vote at all.
  
  That only makes them more blameworthy, not less.
  
  The people who abstained from voting, made their vote. When fascism is on the line, you don't get to sit out and be absolved. They've signed on for everything that is to come.
  
  Not taking a vote, just like postponing or not taking a decision, is equivalent to taking one, so here we are.
- Only about a 4th of us...a fourth voted counter and the rest didn't or can't vote....
- I voted against trump. Why am I to blame?
- They told you exactly what they are planning to do.
  
  Which is why half of the country voted against Trump, and why a lot of the other half voted for Trump. He told us exactly what he was planning to do.
- Yes. Blue MAGA disenfranchised left wing voters.
  
  MAGA emboldened right wing voters.
  
  Republicans are always at fault for being right wing fascists.
  
  Democrats are currently at fault for being right wing fascists.
  
  The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.
  
  Maybe AOC will learn from that spectacular sell out she did at the Nth hour, and will learn from her mistakes.
  
  Both her and Sanders said to vote for the one that could be persuaded to come further left, and you're throwing her under the bus? Wow, it's everyone's fault. Jefferson was right.
  
  The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.
  
  The real victims (with a say/vote) are the Americans who voted for Harris. The people who voted for Trump and those who abstained from voting actively and passively chose what's coming.
  
  Can you or anyone else tell me what "blue MAGA" is?
  
  Edit: It sounds like the term means centrist/center-right Democrats who want to uphold the status quo. How is that "MAGA" of any flavor? I thought the MAGA movement was just a bunch of Christofascists.
  
  Blue maga is not a thing, has never been a thing, and will likely never be a thing.
  
  Oh noes! You couldn't pick your in-flight meal? Yeah, opening the emergency hatch at 30,000 ft was probably the smart move.
  
  /s (for the stupids)
  
  Here's a downvote and a block. Feels like that's what you were going for so congrats!
  
  The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims
  
  Maybe those lazy fucks should have gone out and voted then.
  
  Democrats have absolutely shit messaging and refuse to speak to the working class unless they deign to condescend and you're blaming checks notes "blue MAGA"? What planet are you on?
  
  Not all 32 left wing voters in America!
- We have very little say in how our government works. Over the course of US history the material decisions have been whisked away to less democratic structures (eg the supreme court, the federal reserve). Even early on the democracy was built for property owners (owners of people and land). People are feeling disenfranchised and the vote for trump is a (petulant) vote to flip the gameboard. Of course voting for trump is one of the worst things you can do if you want you and your community’s lives to improve, but the fundamental motivation is disenfranchisement and anger
I'll vote for her.
- If you get another vote.
Oh no, women are gonna lose reproductive rights, climate change will get worse, Trump wont face any consequences for his rampant crimes, prices will outpace wages and minimum wage will be forgotten. There will be genocide and protests will be crushed.

Wait who was president the last 4 years?

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