No America won't. Every bad thing that results from his reelection will be someone else's fault or declared fake. The people that voted for him will be thrilled and vote straight R again come 2028. Democrats,for their part, will put forward someone endorsed by Bush Jr. and wonder why they lost again.
This was mostly sexism, straight up. If it had been Obama, he would have won by a landslide.
I was listening to This American Life where they were interviewing the Muslims in Michigan (*could have been another state, not sure). They said they were going to vote for Trump, ... because? They said it was because Harris didn't speak to them, but surely they remember the Muslim ban or the Gold Star family getting shit on by trump. I had a strong feeling then, they were just looking for an excuse. If that could happen to them, it could happen to all of the other men in America. Cuz less face it, we're more sexist than we are racist because it's across all demographics. Racism is categorized into departments.
sadly I have to agree with this, I definitely think its a mix of both sexism and racism. For many that was a "quiet part". I also had that experience, being an independent has let me talk to both sides since I was swaying either way and well, that was a reoccurring trait that I saw when asking friends who voted for trump why they did.
For democratic voters it was always "I can't let Trump win because he's an offensive racist prick" and for republican voters if it wasn't abortion first thing, it was generally a no statement, usually it was a "i don't actually like trump, but I can't vote for the other side, she doesn't follow my values" or something similar, but if you actually pushed for said values, no value was ever provided.
This doesn't help the fact that many people are just so sick of mainstreamed politics that they are actively ignoring it. Which means that they just fall into whatever name they have heard in their experiences. unfortunately that is not something that is going to be able to be fixed by either side. Many friends who were unable to give reasons were also part of that category. The "I hate politics, everyone sucks and I am either not voting, or just going to vote what I'm used to voting" Many of them have no clue about half of the stuff that he did in the first place so theres nothing for them to dislike. They just don't watch anything political, so their news sources are twitter, and ads that appear as they surf the web.
Knowing that half of the population are, if not outright, very comfortable with, racists and sexists should the democrats have presented a candidate a traditional older cis white male instead of a blasian female ?
Basically, is it ok be making racist choices to beat the racist party or lose with integrity ?
It’s common for the people who support leopards eating faces to not even recognize the leopard when it is their own face which has been eaten. They point to someone whose face they want to be eaten by a leopard and then blame them for it. I hope I didn’t get too lost in the metaphor here.
My joy at their inevitable self inflicted suffering is somewhat overshadowed by the way they seem to actually be happy with the results. I don't think they're going to regret this, I think we are.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be! We know things are bad — worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get MAD! I don't want you to protest, I don't want you to riot, I don't want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first, you've got to get mad! [shouting] You've got to say: 'I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!' So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out, and yell: I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
I think we need to understand that this speech is exactly how republicans see themselves. Notice the focus on violent crime, something which is not actually rising, and inflation. These are the kinds of issues that Republicans have used to gather support. As far as they are concerned, Trump is the TV personality who has gone rogue and started yelling.
more appropriate to look at the Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson types that are actively on pseudo-news channels, screaming into the aether and telling viewers to get mad.
it doesn't matter what they're mad about, as long as they stay mad, and think that somebody needs to be hurt to make it all go back to normal. that's just how MAGA fascism works.
I certainly don't regret my decision. I didn't vote for that yokel, nor did I vote for Harris, I voted for a third party candidate I actually believe in. Trump won my state by >20%, which I 100% expected going into the election, so I decided to use my vote to point out that the electoral system is broken and that neither candidate is acceptable.
I'm unhappy with Trump and I worry that his party won't stand up to him as much (or even as little) as it did last time, but I guess we'll see. I'm mostly worried about the economy, and I see two likely outcomes (from things I've read and watched):
boom - tariffs trigger higher prices, but Trump convinces Congress to issue handouts and people spend more; borrowing rates go up to combat inflation, which ends up strengthening the dollar; this creates a bit of a bubble, but it could last for the remainder of his term
bust - tariffs trigger higher prices, and Trump is unable to convince Congress to issue handouts, so people spend less; economy drops into recession, borrowing rates drop to spur spending, and recovery depends on "trade war" nonsense w/ other countries (i.e. them raising tariffs makes recovery harder)
What ultimately happens depends on how aggressive Trump is w/ tariffs and what he can convince Congress to do. I'm not really looking forward to either scenario, and I hope there are other likely scenarios I'm missing.
That said, whether (or how soon) we regret it depends on which thing happens. Or if Trump ends up going after social issues instead, we'll probably regret those as well.
I hope this is just a new style of trolling, designed to draw out what I’m sure will be a lot of negative attention.
If you’re really gullible enough to be serious about all this, then go fuck yourself. “Mostly worried about the economy.” You can check back in with me the first time someone in your neighborhood gets hauled away in the mass deportations, or when the price of groceries goes up 50%. My guess is the first will happen before the second, but we’ll have to wait and see.