People that grew up in poor neighborhoods (e.g. in the ghetto/barrio/sticksbackwoods), what behaviors, customs, and beliefs did you change when you moved on up?
People that grew up in poor neighborhoods (e.g. in the ghetto/barrio/sticksbackwoods), what behaviors, customs, and beliefs did you change when you moved on up?
Things in poor neighborhoods are done differently than in middle- and upper- class neighborhoods. People that grow up in poor neighborhoods develop behaviors, customs, and beliefs that are different from other neighborhoods because they are part of surviving in the struggle. When they move on up, some of those behaviors, customs, and beliefs are no longer necessary and can even be harmful (e.g. strong reactions to perceived attacks). Others may actually provide an advantage (e.g. living through power outages). Regardless, these changes can cause a sense of estrangement from their childhood and original culture, leading to some resistance. Given all that:
What did you change and what did you keep?
how to avoid appearing like you just escaped the lower classes:
- stop keeping everything, just in case you might need it
- stop buying random crap without seeing how it can justify your space/money/time.
- stop eating garbage. eat consciously, expect you will need to feel great instead of stopping hunger.
- stop keeping in touch with toxic people just because you might need them someday.
- stop seeking attention with the way you dress and talk, etc. don't appear needy. aim for tasteful.
- preventative maintenance. fix things that are wonky before they fail at a bad time.
- appear competent and secure, give eye contact, listen.
- stop keeping in touch with toxic people just because you might need them someday.
This one is big.
Had a talk with a guy recently. He's always putting other people ahead of him to give his life meaning. And yet it also stresses him out, doesn't get anything in return, and is only doing it because of a hypothetical "they'd do the same". But they don't?
Why'd you have to call me out like that with those first three?
(Seriously, not keeping stuff is so difficult. It's a strain on my marriage and I wish I could just flip a switch and not feel that instinct)
"the sticks" doesn't mean poor, it just means in the countryside (at least in the UK). On the estate(s) would be correct for us.
I didn't grow up particularly poor, but became poor upon moving out of the family home. This led to making do with very limited ingredients, finding bargains, and that has stuck with me ever since. I've saved a lot of money down the years, can live very frugally for a period of time when I really need to, and as such became a homeowner because I knew how to knuckle down and avoid unnecessary expenditure, perhaps to the detriment of my health at times.
In the US, "estates" sounds vaguely wealthy. For example, a fancy garage sale is an Estate Sale (which kinda implies a rich person died and this is their estate being liquidated.)
It's short for council estate. We also have the same connotation if you own an estate, a large parcel of land with a big house or whatever.
“the sticks” doesn’t mean poor
Is there an informal term that would describe poor rural neighborhoods similar to ghetto/barrio?
Trailer park :/
Americans tend to equate "county" with "poor" because they don't have first-hand experience with country people. They might also be confused because ostentatious displays of wealth are considered tacky here in the South.
I'm from the rural South and there are plenty of ostentatious displays of wealth. Particularly surrounding how your home looks - decorating for every single holiday for no reason comes to mind.
Plenty of rural Americans are super poor. It generally takes more money to live in the city so that should make some sense. I grew up rural poor - my family were partially subsistence farmers, cutting our grocery bill.
To answer the question from OP - I'm not sure I count as properly middle class but I'm definitely more stable than I was growing up, so I'll say my biggest changes are being more conscious of what I look and smell like. When you're poor, everything smells like whatever's on sale. I have kept my tendency to overbuy during sales for anything is shelf stable for long periods of time even if I already have plenty.
As someone with first hand experience growing up in the country, you could not be more wrong.
lol I know you’re full of it specifically because I come from a backwards place and escaped it
I used to keep EVERYTHING under lock and key, or under my direct supervision. I have been robbed multiple times. Turns out, not everyone is a shitty person. TBH I kinda still do it. Not to the extremes I used to though.
I'm really good at surviving with a very small amount of money. For a while I also would steal food from wherever I could get it, I thankfully don't have to do that anymore but the skills are there.
I used to live off of the leftover food of people who didn't finish their plate at a restaurant.
me being autistic at the same time not knowing that was looked down upon: you gonna finish your fries??
I've CPTSD
Casual racism that only intensified the inequity. Realize it's the billionaire class that's benefiting from the in fighting.
A big thing is thinking about finances constantly and asking those kinds of questions in social settings. It's more of a common thing to do when you're in a poorer environment.
I still to this day when leaving the house or a building. I need to look both ways before I exit. When I was younger and living in the ghetto I almost got shot because there was a shoot out down the street.
I grew up lower middle class in Rural Alberta Canada in the 70's. I moved to a mid sized city in the beginnings of my teens. and one major thing that stuck out to me was the amount of swearing the city kids did. I heard more curse words in one recess than I pretty much did in my entire lifetime up to that point.
Not to say that we didn't know swear words it was just REALLY frowned upon by every one. Adults didn't swear in front of kids, and men/boys didn't swear in front of girls.