The absolute state of workers’ rights in America
The absolute state of workers’ rights in America
The owner of the meat processing plant was ordered to pay a whopping $1143 to a teen who lost his hand in a meat grinder
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Ionia County Judge Ray Voet said the accident was a “horrible tragedy” but didn't warrant jail or probation for Darin Wilbur (Owner)
If a homeless man sneezed on someone he'd be calling for the death penalty.
“Two months later, we wouldn’t even be here,” the judge said, noting that the teen soon would have turned 18 years old.
The $1100 fine for permanently disabiling a child was too much.
Defense attorney Howard Van Den Heuvel said Wilbur hired the teen, a high school dropout, as a way to help him. He said the boy was warned to never put his hand inside the grinder.
Blame the child who lost their hand to a greedy boss.
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"I can't believe you mutilated your hand after I specifically told you not to, wtf"
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"Children's hands just yearn for the shredder. What are you going to do in the end?"
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“Two months later, we wouldn’t even be here,” the judge said, noting that the teen soon would have turned 18 years old.
Not to excuse this callous fuck of a judge, but yes, this happens all the fucking time in slaughterhouses and nobody bats an eye. Killing and chopping up animals is a brutalizing, inhumane business not only to the creatures that are murdered for the treats, but also to the workers who perform the gruesome labor, frequently because they are in such a precarious position they need to take this kind of job that over time maims both the body and the soul of those employed in it. Factory settings are heavy on work accidents to begin with, but "meat processing" is about the worst it gets in terms of workplace safety.
Which is why most nations at least aren't barbaric enough to let kids do this work.
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Fines for illicit drug posession in the state of Michigan can reach up to $25,000 for personal use btw. Heroin addicts are forced pay 25k and child mutilators only have to make a down payment on a used car.
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in a just society the company would be forced to pay out millions to this kid. then owners, executives, and anyone involved in the hiring/management around this incident would face criminal charges. those ppl are a danger to society and would benefit from a decade or so of real labor
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Jesus Christ, $1143 is pennies compared to the trauma and hardship this young man will experience.
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JFC I bet it cost more to clean his bits out of the grinder
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JFC the long-term detriment to that kid is going to be worth way, way more than a thousand and change. This is basically a non-punishment.
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Less than a weeks wages for a lifetime disability
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We're going to have to start making excuses for the lack of terror
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Whoever was responsible for letting a 17 year old within range of a meat grinder in the first place should be fucking executed, along with their boss and boss’s boss, and boss’s boss’s boss. That is an appropriate punishment for permanently mutilating a child to try and make money.
At the very very least they should be required to pay him the wages of 40 hours of work every week for the rest of his life, and to make sure to save that up to set aside in case they go out of business.
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Idk about execution, but jail time seems much more appropriate than $1000. That's so pitiful, they might as well have fined him for messing up operations with losing his hand.
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Still like the commuted death penalty China uses for situations like this. Execution, but if you give away enough of your wealth and treat your workers right it's reduced to jail time. If you're caught doing it again in that time period they just move up your execution date.
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"We find the defendant 👶 guilty of industrial sabotage"
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Based off what came up for the business, it looks like it’s a very amateur operation owned and run by one guy. Screams small business tyrant who thinks violating child labor laws in order to save money is somehow him doing a favor for the kids.
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It builds character
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The per capita income of Ionia is $27,000/yr, its rough down there.
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How do you delineate execution vs re-education/imprisonment though? Wouldn’t the latter make more sense or are you implying that these types are beyond hope (very possible)
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Well it would have to be a pre/post-revolutionary reorganization of the State, the socio-economic system, and the criminal justice system to even begin an analysis based off of the possible crime. I would point to the section in the comment of the post as a possible start to penal code reform in a post-revolutionary state.
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Oh wow, a whole thousand dollars for all of my hand? Where do I sign?
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You hear that, Lefty? It's payday!
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WhAt aRe YoU gOiNG tO Do wHeN YOu GeT RoBbEd
Idk man this criminal system doesn't seem to do anything for poor people.
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That's just the cost of doing business. $1,143 is nothing
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Absolutely. Even higher fines ought to be discussed (like maybe the victim ought to get a claim to the company in addition to the fine)?
- 125k Pound https://www.ioshmagazine.com/2022/10/25/ps115000-fine-after-hand-amputated-machine-how-it-happened-1
- 180k Pound https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/23275770.tameside-factory-large-fine-woman-hand-amputated/
Also lol @ the judge: 2 month later we would ignore workers' losing limbs
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Phew! He'll be able to pay for his ambulance ride to the hospital. The system works
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- The fines go to the state. The teen would have to file a worker's compensation claim if he wants to get a medical bill reimbursement for his hand
- An ambulance ride cost me > $3,000 in 2010, but I'm sure it's more now
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The really sad part is that the court had to force this dude to pay up $1,000. It's not like he just handed him a few C notes and told him to scram. This is ridiculous.
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Does that even cover a hospital bill in the US?
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Lmao nowhere even close, just walking into an ER usually costs at least $3k if you're uninsured
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Most ambulance rides in the US are around that cost alone
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My interpretation was that this is just a fine as a deterrence and the kid will have to sue them to get actual compensation. Of course the fine is so ridiculously low it wouldn't deter jack shit.
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It's a good thing LE FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS are no longer as PROFITABLE for ENTITLED PLAINTIFFS
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If you think about it, he's lost potential earnings of that and more (with inflation) for the rest of his life. Another 40+ years of work to account for.
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They should at the very least have to pay him 40 hours worth of wages every week for the rest of his life, plus extra for the trauma.
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Yep.
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In a proper country like China the business owners would be in front of a firing squad by now
Edit: what the fuck did I just start
Contributing to the strugglesession by adding “oh yeah, then what happened to the owners of Foxconn?” and immediately doubling down when people point out that Foxconn is a Taiwanese company by saying “oh I thought Taiwan was part of China”
Lol, don't know where to start with your comment
Oh it's like the good old days of the sub
You can start with "damn u right"
A bit too uncivil for your tastes? Please elaborate.
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Bold move, praising a genocidal dictatorship.
Hey remember when China killed 4.5 million Muslims after 9/11 and no one went to prison
No of course you don't, cause you're a shitlib
I’m not used to the federation thing yet, I saw this comment and assumed sarcasm, forgot there were dipshits out there that actually think this and that Adrian Zenz is a “reliable source”.
I didn’t see anybody praising America?
Wait, you mean China? Have you even read the party planning bulletin?
https://hexbear.net/PPB
China isn't run by one person lol