The comedian and podcaster used his huge platform to spread more COVID disinformation, talk up Alex Jones and Elon Musk, and reveal an odd obsession with gay sex.
Rogan’s entire career was predicated on the normalisation of reactionary right-wing beliefs/prejudices. He was the motte to the bailey of the Thiels and Bannons, easing perfectly normal dudes along the path, one casual joke at the expense of minorities at a time. And for a while it worked, to the point where Spotify bet the company on him. And then, the word “weird” entered the discourse, and people realised that casual cruelty and obsessing about strangers’ genitals weren’t the time-honoured values of a silent majority.
It would suck to be holding Spotify shares right now.
And then, the word “weird” entered the discourse, and people realised that casual cruelty and obsessing about strangers’ genitals weren’t the time-honoured values of a silent majority.
Eh, we'll see. I remember a lot of people thinking "#MeToo" was going to put a hard stop to sexual harassment in the workplace. And, for a brief moment, it did look like our social norms and criminal justice system would maybe do the right thing. But then the reactionaries got even more reactionary. Now we're debating whether rape victims should bleed out on a hospital floor during an ectopic pregnancy while doctors huddle around fearful of losing their licenses if they try to provide treatment.
Joe Rogan isn't going away. If anything, his fascist dogwhistling seems to be bringing in more and more rabid dogs to his cult community in Austin, TX. My home state has never felt more fucked than it does today. Old enough to remember when "Keep Austin Weird" was charming. Not so much anymore.
imho you have a lot more to deal with vis-a-vis greg abbot and the GOP menstrual militia. Rogan's a clown who's gonna die shitting on the toilet. He has influence, but guys, Texas, for fuck's fucking sake, look around at the dystopia you've built for women, Rogan doesn't rate on the scale of Abbot and Ken "CAN'T INDICT ME" Paxton. You have much bigger, much worse, more pressing problems.
I would bet that just like with "woke", the right is going to take "weird" and use it. It's what they do. They are the masters of projection, and love name calling. They're shameless, too, so if you call them something, they just take it and turn it around. I am positive if this "weird" name calling campaign catches on, it will just become another right wing buzzword.
They gave him another stand up special? I haven't seen the new one but his old standup is awful. Seriously some of the most unfunny shit ever from an established television personality.
We don't need to care about him. Bad comedians with shitty world views are a dime a dozen. He's famous because he communicates well and not because his ideas are worth attention or respect.
When was the last time you even had a special before this? I thought he stopped doing comedy like in 2010. It's been a while. And he was a failed comedian. Like that's why he got into everything else. He wasn't very good at it.
That's the worse. I loved comedian Rogan during the 2000s-2010s. He used to make jokes about being a idiot, and accepting that. The past few years have been a nightmare. Bill Burr calling him out on his contradictions is gold. Rogan continues to spiral into hack territory.
UFC really morphed him into being a guy with awful takes, and his fandom caused his ego to grow. His podcast continues to create disingenuous arguments that riles up the fanbase. Like he'd bring up a topic, but then only invite one perspective and fully let them run wild and even agreeing with them, while dismissing the truth. Even when he gets fact checked, he shrugs and goes, "woops", as if he didn't just spend a few hours calling for hostility about something he doesn't understand.
His "I'm a idiot" shtick doesn't work anymore when he keeps control of the narrative and is intellectually dishonest.
I agree that he wasn't that funny. But it was also really tame. I don't remember it being "gay sex obsessed". I don't understand why people care so much about him. He's really just extremely average.
He may be extremely average, but he's also one of the top podcast hosts and platforms a lot of harmful stuff. That's why people (who are against him) care. I don't know why people like him though.
Holy shit, a double whammy! Weird Vance discussed gay sex with his grandma, and Weird Musk permanently deleted a picture from the internet forever.
"I'll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I'm going to hell."
When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as "Mamaw" — she replied bluntly: "Don't be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you're gay?"
When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.
"JD, do you want to suck dicks?" she said, according to the book.
The young Vance, apparently "flabbergasted," said: "Of course not!"
"Then you're not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay," she replied. "God would still love you."
Ah, the good people of Lemmy, with their Google and Spotify accounts fighting their part against the corrupted establishment. Heavily downvoting any righteous action that would make sense. There's, atm, 26 people supporting Joe Rogan because they haven't figured out how to look any further than Spotify. Which besides having Rogan on a pedastal are ripping off artists, the independent ones too. Those are the self-proclaimed leftist tech-nerds that are making this site happen!
Using "weird" about a comedian actually risks the whole gambit IMO. You start calling everyone weird, maybe it's just you who is the unusual person calling everyone who disagrees with you weird.
The whole point of the attack is that the weird people are not acceptable elected officials. Keep it to people who are trying to get elected.
I thought it was a bad comedy special but it's just wild the amount of hate I've seen for him and it. Like we already knew he had no idea what he was talking about on Covid, he admits as such (standard "don't listen to a comedian for that" take that he and Jon Stewart trot out all the time). You could see it as his surrender on the topic. People seem to be taking it more as a "he's still talking about it."
It's because he pushes BS information without looking into it. I mean look up his bit where they talk about the presidental acceptance speech not being live. He insisted it wasn't done live and it's proven by Bidens watch being wrong. They debunk him in second. That's the problem with him. Things he says can be debunked easily but instead of doing any basic research he just pushes crazy ideas that he likes.