Tankies really will stop at nothing to lick fascist boots.
Tankies really will stop at nothing to lick fascist boots.
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These morons realize Russia is influencing the outcome of this with Wagner? Like I'm not saying the US should intervene, but what's happening in Venezuela isn't liberation. It's Russia maintaining their colonial holdings. The people at ground level there agitating to get rid of Maduro aren't anti-comm, they're anti-colonial, which is what any good communist should be. What a bunch of dumb dumb dingleberries
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Worst part is, the only reason the fucking neoliberals are so prominent in the opposition was because Maduro removed all of his left opposition from running (jail, election bans, exile, etc). It's one of the stupidest fucking choices imaginable if you were to think Maduro were ideologically motivated. However, as purely a power play, it's the right move - forcing the opposition to rally around a less-popular viewpoint. It just wasn't enough to swing the election in Maduro's favor.
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Oh. Perhaps they do realize it. That would explain why they're simping so hard for authoritarian dictatorship.
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You’re saying Wagner is in Venezuela? I know it’s in Russia’s interest for Maduro to stay in power but I haven’t heard of any Russian involvement
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Tankies and compelling cannibalism through malefic policy decisions, name a more iconic duo
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Lenin overthrew an election, and they love him, so it's hardly a surprise.
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You dive in deep wherever tankies are rooted so others are not as swayed. Ty for the micro-content over all these months.
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Why don't they
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This site is living in your brain rent-free and the instance's owner is your landlord.
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I think that tankie is trying to say that a revolution needs to grow organically, and no intervention will be cheap with human lives.
The rest of the world needs to adopt the US constitution 2nd Amendment rights. If everyone had guns, all dictators and authoritarians would sweat.
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Weapon democracy doesn't compute well without an effective information and accountability apparatus aka 'the media', education system and judiciary.
"If you don't know where to target, what use is a weapon?"
Weapon democracy is also pretty bad at peaceful power change. Shooting down every generation of dictators vs e.g. trialling organisations and people opposed to democracy™ sends different messages for, say, mediation.
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And the US, in it's boundless generosity, has shown the world how not to do the right to bear arms. The moment they start being weird about it and turning it into a personality trait just punch them in the dick.
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International election observers found the election to be fair and valid.
National Lawyers Guild: "The delegation observed a transparent, fair voting process with scrupulous attention to legitimacy, access to the polls, and pluralism."
Council of Electoral Experts of Latin America (CEELA): Venezuela has the best electoral system in Latin America, due to which Venezuelans can “vote in peace and tranquility knowing that the votes will be counted, that the will of Venezuelans will be reflected in the results declared by the National Electoral Council.”
South Africa: "The observers condemn and dispel allegations of fraud by the Reuters media group reporting on the elections taking place in the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela without actually being present. Claims or allegations of fraud have been found to be baseless and mischievous with Venezuela’s electoral system considered one of the best in the world."
They only people claiming fraud are the Americans and the losers. Unrelated fact, they both want to privatise the oil company PDVSA.
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They only people claiming fraud are the Americans and the losers.
And the EU, and almost all of Latin America. But hey, who needs facts when you have boots to lick?
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I would distinguish election observer groups reporting their first hand observations and politicians making statements. For South America:
Claim fraud:
- Argentina
- Chile
- Costa Rica
- Ecuador
- El Salvador
- Panama
- Peru
- Uruguay
Seek verification:
- Brazil
- Bolivia
- Colombia
- Guatemala
- Guyana
- Mexico
- Paraguay
Support:
- Bolivia
- Cuba
- Nicaragua
You might be able to notice political leanings of the groups. Capitalists not liking an election result doesn't make it fraudulent. The same claims were made of previous elections and proven false after audit.
All of this is to ignore the 100 year history of U.S-backed coups in Venezuela and trade sanctions. It is hard to take American voices seriously when they claim to advocate for the people of Venezuela while enforcing sanctions that destroy their quality of life.
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Isn't it liberating when a complex question is completely avoided by a universal notion of 'USA bad'?
Yes that's definitely it. It's people who have heard the stupid overly-patriotic American exceptionalism "America can do no wrong", they know it's obviously not true and so they switch to the reverse position of "America does all wrong" like it's somehow more true.
IMHO, the ideology comes second after Venezuela being a part of debate between the West and the likes of Putin, so even if locals themselves resist against Maduro they'd be written off as foreign forces meddling in the politics of the sovereign state (I've already seen foreshadowing of it in ml-threads and russian news). If, on the other hand, Ukraine or other state got taken over by anti-western forces, there would be hoops to proclaim that's what people want or that's for the cause of
anti-imperialism. That binary logic may covers itself in legit arguments and historical contexts, like a distorted perception of aboriginal cultures, but the foundational block is usually that, and it's supported by a whole different stream of propaganda.I double your last sentence. And it's people who need and depend on doing that.