1y ago

Police pulled over a Waymo car that drove in the oncoming lane in Phoenix

www.theverge.com

The car did not get a ticket.

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1y ago

Police pulled over a Waymo car for driving in the oncoming lane

www.theverge.com /2024/7/6/24193094/phoenix-waymo-car-pulled-over-traffic-stop-oncoming-lane-police

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“UNABLE TO ISSUE CITATION TO COMPUTER,” say dispatch records, AZCentral writes. Arizona law does allow officers to give out tickets when a robotaxi commits a traffic violation while driving autonomously; however, officers have to give them to the company that owns the vehicle. Doing so is “not feasible,” according to a Phoenix police spokesperson quoted by trade publication Repairer Driven News earlier this year.
- however, officers have to give them to the company that owns the vehicle. Doing so is “not feasible,” according to a Phoenix police spokesperson
  That's gotta be the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, you write the ticket up, and you mail it to the company.
  
  Give them a Jira ticket
  
  Yeah that's some bullshit. I got tagged by a speed camera in the Netherlands, two months later I got the citation in California. They sent it to the registered owner, sixt, they forwarded it to me.
  
  Let say the ticket is 100 dollars thats like a millisecond of profit for Google. So what's the point, threaten them with revoking the robot taxi license.
  
  Well, you see, companies are wealthy and they have great lawyers, unlike the poors.
  
  Which company is that? The car is probably owned by an LLC based out of a different state, so you have to track down the formation documents there to find the owning company, only to find it's membership is another LLC in a different state, and so on for 90 levels of bullshit.
  I do code enforcement on commercial properties and it can take 50 hours and thousands of dollars in research to figure out who the responsible party is.
- This should be an automatic impound of the vehicle and when the rep comes to pick it up hand them the ticket. Or you know, make the police send them a damn ticket.
- so it's just effectively legal to send out killer robotaxis, great!
  
  Elon musk enters the chat *
Well at least no one died this time
- Per mile driven, all of these autonomous systems are statistically better than humans at driving.
  It's mostly because humans are dogshit at driving, but you are a lot safer using these systems than not, despite media reporting.
  
  That's only because they don't drive that fast, and they just dump most problems to a human driver. If a self-driving car stopped in the middle of an intersection and a human driver hit it, the blame would legally fall on the human despite the fact that the self-driving car caused the issue.
  
  That's an apples to oranges comparison. Self driving cars aren't driving on the same roads and in the same conditions. Maybe they're better, but that hasn't really been tested/evaluated.
  
  Sir, your whole family died in a waymo accident.
  First of all, statistically, the chance was bigger that they didn't die. And now leave the billionaires alone.
- 3.5 died on Arizona roads yesterday and 3.5 more will die today - think the robots will be safer than us someday?
  
  They already are, the media just reports on every one of these crashes. Even just reporting on each human fatality daily would put things closer to perspective even with every autonomous accident being reported as if it were the end times.
  
  Well, considering way more than 3.5 people crash and die in Arizona every day.... I'd say yes. They will become safer about a year ago it sounds.
Wait... Did the car actually stop for the police officer? Or did they have to basically block the car to get it to stop?
That's Waymo excitement than they are used to over there in Phoenix.
Melt it for scrap. No driver means no one’s responsible, so turn that shit into scrap metal.
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