Not Again: United Airlines Boeing 777 Makes Emergency Landing In Denver

This plane has been flying for 20+ years before it ran into an issue. This is not a Boeing problem. It's a maintenance issue with United.

You drive your car for 20 years and your brakes fail, it's not Honda's fault that you weren't doing the maintenance on it.

It’s not even really a maintenance issue. This kind of thing happens all the time.

If it were not a Boeing and United thing, it would have never made the news.
If it was Boeing then it would also affect much more companies who use their planes but I just keep seeing United here, United there.
Exactly. I flew the 777 for a living. It's a tank. Extremely reliable, flies like a dream, plenty of power. I haven't flown the new generation 777 though and you can bet it's not as safe. Nothing Boeing makes now is.

I used to be a "if it's not Boeing I'm not going" pilot. I feel stupid now.

Airlines suffer the exact same problem. Greed. Boeing doesn't make the engines. GE does (or Pratt and Whitney). They are very reliable engines too. If they start failing in a specific airline, it's a maintenance problem.

Edit: also as comments started, this could be nothing but normal issues, haven't read the article. I stopped reading at "engine issues, including tyre falling off..." What??
- By "new generation", do you mean the 777X? Boeing's production seems to have throttled down on it for a while now. I'm guessing they're pushing the 787 over it from what I can tell.
Most of the ‘Boeing things’ we’ve been hearing about have been maintenance issues. Even the initial blowout was a mix of Boeing and maintenance.

Not every emergency landing means there is a fundamental issue with the company. These things happen. If the plane can divert to Denver when it is flying over Montana, they clearly are still well in control.

That's all well and good, but emergency landings for any reason are the worst. At best, it's a huge inconvenience. I had one a few years back because a passenger was acting like an asshole, and it cost a full day of my limited vacation, so I'd really rather not have one even if the plane is safe enough for them to land.
- I dunno. I’d say crashes are worse than emergency landings. But then again, I haven’t had the experience of an emergency landing, like you have. So I might be in the wrong here.
You don't even have to read the article. Just click the link. The first bullet point of the summary states:

United Airlines flight from San Francisco to Paris faced engine issues, diverting to Denver and canceling onward flights.
after the aircraft experienced engine issues.

It was literally for the reason out of caution that there was an issue with the aircraft in this case. Might not be the best case to be defending Boeing on this one.
- A) Boeing doesn’t make the engines B) These things do happen. It doesn’t point to a structural issue immediately. There will be an investigation. Only afterwards can you reach conclusion on the root cause and who might be to blame. But referring to A) it most likely isn’t Boeing in this case.

Boeing Killed John Barnett

Makes me blood boil

22.4-year-old Boeing 777

I still think of the 777 as a new plane. They first entered service in 1995. Stupid time.

Not exactly thrilled to have a Boeing flight on United in a few weeks. Kind of scary stuff.

Musician: United breaks guitars

United: Hey guys… this time it wasn’t us. It was Boeing

Boeing: No comment
- Fuck United.
Even with their recent problems, if you are driving any significant distance to the airport, you're far more likely to be killed in a traffic accident on the way there than you are on the airplane.
They have thousands of flights a day. You have nothing to be worried about. Not that it couldn't happen, but it's so beyond unlikely, it's not actually worth a minute of fretting over.
- I think what you mean to say is that a decade ago and earlier it was very unlikely but in recent years it's becoming far more likely, and you should absolutely consider the possibility that the airplane will fall apart because there's no reliable quality control and the company that manufactured it is staffed by amateurs.

Is it Sunday night already?

I've been flying since I was a child. I've never feared flying. I'm now feeling slight dread about future trips. For the first time in my life.

Capitalism, folks!

Kayak put in a filter for aircraft, at least on their desktop site. Might bring some peace of mind if you can filter out Boeing.
I hold a flight instructor certificate, or did before it expired.

I went to mechanic school.

I don't work in aviation anymore.

after the aircraft experienced engine issues.

https://archive.is/JCoL5