New poll shows who Dems want in 2028 — and it’s not Kamala Harris
New poll shows who Dems want in 2028 — and it’s not Kamala Harris
The poll finds that the former Vice President and Democratic candidate for 2024 isn't the top pick for Democrats going into 2028.
The poll, released on May 30 by Atlas Intel, found Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and former transportation secretary in the Biden administration, to be the top pick among Democrats who responded to the survey.
A total of 31.5% of self-identified Democrats who responded to the poll said they would vote for Buttigieg for president in four years, according to the poll.
Other surveys in May from firms such as Echelon Insights and McLaughlin & Associates have found Harris in first place in the hypothetical primary, making Atlas Intel’s poll stand out among the rest.
Harris is the third most popular pick among Democrats in the poll, falling behind U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.
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TLDR: It's Mayor Pete in the lead in this poll, followed by AOC in second.
And an AOC candidacy would really, really excite me if I didn't know that Democrats rig their primaries. It'll be someone that rich people love who gets the nod, likely Mayor Pete or Gavin Newsom, and then Democrats will wonder how they could have possibly lost to JD Vance.
And an AOC candidacy would really, really excite me if I didn't know that Democrats rig their primaries.
Yeah at this point I think you could take a person from my own life that I have literal love and respect for and I would still be more inclined to interpret surviving a primary as a character indictment than as reason for optimism.
Pete has been making the rounds on various right and left'ish podcasts and channels, that's probably why his name is coming up. Though he avoids discussion on specific policy or make any firm stances.
Basically he's doing the Democrat Dance. Saying lots of words with little or no substance or committment.
Host: "America is feeling a lot of economic pain."
Pete: "I aknowledge and empathize with that pain."
Host: ".....and? What would you do about it if you were president?"
Pete: "Yes! So, about that local sports team..."
Democrats will wonder how they could have possibly lost to JD Vance.
Lost to Trump. He's running for a third term and he's tearing down as much infrastructure as he can to do it. This isn't going to be a representative democracy if Trump and the goons behind him stay in power. Infighting and implosion is all we can hope for.
He's repeatedly said he won't... not that he can't change his mind but I'd be really surprised if he ran again. There's a much better chance of him dying in office than running again, let alone winning given he'd literally have to get a constitutional amendment passed. The supreme court is conservative but they have a strong record of swatting down his more ridiculous claims, including when he tried to challenge the 2020 election results.
If Donald Trump is President past January 2029, he won't need an election to do it.
Just like in Russia, appearances will matter. Show pony elections are often the norm in totalitarian states.
If appearances mattered they wouldn't be doing half the shit they are doing right now.
Appearances do matter. It's how fascism comes to power.
From your link:
Fascism cannot exist outside of a democratic political system any more than cancer can exist outside of a living organism, and for much the same reason. Fascism is a disease of liberal democracy, a disease that co-opts the principles and systems of liberal democracy to destroy it from within.
This is proven obviously false by history. Every successful fascist government abandoned the democratic political system when it was no longer useful. That's what I mean by appearances not mattering. Appearances do matter up to a certain point, but once fascists seize power the mask falls away and the fascists stop pretending because appearances stop mattering.
How so? Mussolini did that exact process in Italy, as did Hitler and Franco.
I'd love a source on that
Franco was never elected. He was appointed by the Junta during Spanish Civil War, and lost the elections a few years before.
As for Italy, the last elections were in 1934 once the fascists consolidated power and the Chamber of Deputies was replaced with the Chamber of Fasces and Corporations. The last elections Germany had were in 1933 which saw Hitler appointed as Chancellor.
Italy was a dictatorship 11 years, Germany for 12 years, and Spain for 40 years. They didn't even bother to maintain the appearance of democracy during this time, they dissolved parliaments and banned political parties and became very open dictatorships.
Once the fascists are in power they rip off the mask because appearances don't matter anymore.
Even if she got past the primaries the US public is so brainwashed that I doubt she'd make it. I'd love it if she did but.. I don't see it.
You forget the split ticket in the last election where people who voted down ticket for tRump and republicans only to overwhelmingly vote for AOC. She has the popularity to bridge the divides and unite labor against the wealthy. This tour with Bernie will further cement her popularity with the masses!
It seems Democrats are content to just ignore how Bernie and AOC are filling football stadiums in red states, because MSNBC just repeats that common drumbeat that only centrists are electable.
Looking back, the old guard in the DNC needs to go. They're still reeling from when they last ran a progressive and Nixon took like 48/50 states. I think that explains some of their hesitation. However, those were vastly different times and before Nixon -- and moreover Reagan -- started dismantling the guardrails that helped create the middle-class.