Legitimately curious what she is expecting. My kindest interpretation is she thinks students or teens should get work experience. Maybe she thinks people should have to work several jobs if it's too... Easy?
Not that students should have to work...
Customer service jobs are some of the worst outside of Malaysian ship breaker or Siberian lumberjack.
Why don't people just use twitter instead of looking at twitter screenshots on every other site on the internet? The names are blanked so we don't even know who these people are supposed to be. There's no reason at all to darken our day with her obscure ramblings. It only had 2 retweets and 17 likes when somebody seeked this out to put in other people's faces. There's no point to this at all.
How does that quote go? Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and be confirmed one. Something like that. Anyway, it applies here.
I absolutely do not agree with her. Their view point is that Dairy Queen is a "starter job" for someone who lives with their guardian(s). Then the Dairy Queen worker takes their experiences and "upgrades" to a better job. Thus, leaving the position open to someone who doesn't need to afford to live or whatever...
People like this woman completely ignore the fact that professionals are also struggling right now; and people are also sick of being paid unreasonable wages due to a lack of experience. She also ignores that not all young people have safety nets as well.
Making ice cream cones at Dairy Queen should be enough to live on. It shouldn't be able to buy you a super yacht. Then again, I don't believe anything should be able to get you a super yacht. Just get a regular yacht and be happy.
Hmm, I wonder how many people that believe this would also happen to be the people who raise hell when nobody gives enough of a shit to make their burger right..
Every mom in my family is about this stupid, let me be honest, even dumber than this lady and that’s about 20 people. They are conservatives. And they vote!
These people don’t deserve to have their voices reinforced by idiot representatives.
So don’t you skip that vote this year okay?
And please vote more often because there is actually a lot of voting to be done.
I think what she's trying to say is that we need a UBI that covers living expenses, and providing the essential service of making Oreo blizzards is on top of that.
So what she’s saying is that taxpayers should subsidize dairy queen, fast food, Walmart, etc?
Now what are the chances that this lovely lady supports a robust social safety net so that people can be paid too little to live?
It seems like a typical conservative viewpoint - complain and deny every possible solution. In fact, deny the problem exists. Why care about the suffering of unknown unseen people if ignoring it makes your taxes 3% lower?
And I think that is being generous, assuming that the cruelty isn’t the point. That’s not a given.
America is just a big giant corporation, and a lot of citizens are those useless and heartless fucking bosses who would let you go no matter what happens to you after, just go die on the streets. They don't care, you're gone. I hate this shit
Maybe these terms mean something different to y'all but in NZ Living Wage is considerably higher than the minimum wage. And you definitely can live on minimum wage, but not well. I'd definitely expect making icecreams to be a minimum wage job.
For reference NZ minimum wage is $23.15 ($14.25 US) Living wage is $26 ($16.01 US) .
What's a US living wage?
Someone play Devil's Advocate and give us a workable argument for a society where people can't live off any single job. I'm not one to shy away from arguments and perspectives I don't agree with. It's important to understand both sides.
I don’t think anyone says that the DQ person needs to be able to afford a standard of living that’s luxurious, but what they’re saying is that everyone needs to be able to afford basic necessities (shelter, food, healthcare, education etc.).
The point is that our economy should be built upon jobs that actually provide a meaningful purpose along with a living wage, like trades, crafts or other skilled work, instead of expecting people who are trying to build a life for themselves to be subjected to soul crushing busy work to line the pockets of corporate stooges.
let me explain:
no one should have to get the living by actual work.
All should get their living from those who have enough of it. And then only when someone wants to, he/she/whatever should do some work but not for a living, only for fun.
Those who "have" should be those who give. So "that" is the society that person really wants as she told us very clear (or not???) and i do share this opinion ;-) lets help her together achieving her dreamsociety by diverting her "haves" for free to those who don't "have" but need. This of course is a service for her on her request, to achieve what she stated to want and that service is for free of course, she does not have to pay for it, as we do not have to live of this service, that would be unhealthy!! everyone should only do the work he/she/whatever wants to do for free after receiving the living for free from those who have ;-)
Is this only about full-time jobs? How about location?
General living wages were a terrible idea. Not everybody needs one. Some just want an easy gig to finance unimportant stuff.
Back when I was a stoner, I loved sorting bottles in the grocery store. Three days a week, two hours per day, I could show up high. Then minimum wage raised the wage from 7.50 to 13 euros. The job got cancelled, and the cashiers have to take turns doing it. Which they hate.
Those cashiers have to do it, because they need the job. They do need a living wage. I just had too much time. There are many menial jobs like that. Or were. They are now done by people who already had other jobs. Making them work more for the same money, having fewer people with a job.
The dude making a round taking out trash? Yeah, that's also the cashiers now. Making the job a true shitshow.
Living wage for full-time jobs, that I can understand, kinda. But there are tons of menial jobs. I worked a lot of them, until they disappeared. None of them are worth that much money. Many are just a service the company provided. They don't anymore. And everybody is hating it.
One can't make a living selling ice cream cones. But one can save up for some holiday or a car doing that. Well, can't, anymore. There simply are no ice cream stands anymore. Just bullshit prepackaged ice cream.
Good points, although I think the concern about the difficulty of avoiding a neo slavery caste is larger. That said, one of the arguments for UBI is that it would give the freedom to walk away from shitty employers, so the pressure would be in the opposite direction. I don't think it's necessarily that simple, since the creativity geared towards exploitation seems to be boundless.