/r/kbinMigration created.... and quickly banned by reddit

This wild banning of subreddits that promote alternatives to reddit is likely to push a lot of people to leave who may have been on the fence about staying on reddit

I'm just waiting for the real Streisand effect to kick in if they ban /r/redditalternatives
- That's already happening. People are mentioning kbin, lemmy, and tildes pretty regularly. A few others have tossed their sites in as well. It's going to get passed around one way or another.
I just deleted Reddit after seeing this post lol
- If you haven't done it, go back and delete your posts and comments. Reddit needs your content, without its users providing content and moderation Reddit is done.
- Honestly, such a disappointment to see what has been a great community devolve because of such short sighted decisions..

That’s crazy lmao, I found out about kbin through all the fiasco and the subreddit called redditalternatives where it was rated very highly, just a few hours ago too

But anyway, hello everyone, been a reddit user since 2013, this seems like a nice place to lose productive hours to

Came here throught the same post as well! The fewer numbers here are actually motivating me to be more active on this platform.
- Me, three! I have to agree that I've already commented, posted, and boosted stuff more in the past 2-3 days than I have in the last couple of months on Reddit.
- Same here
Welcome! I've been here for a few days now and this reminds me of the reddit of old. You'll love it!

Paging Streisand, paging Barbra Streisand. Your effect has arrived.

Absolutely. It's really quite fascinating, sociologically speaking lol.

Bruh lmfao reddit is tweaking the fuck out now.

Hahaha oh god this is just... wow...

Hard to believe how different reddit was back in 2010

Absolutely wild that they looked at what happened at Twitter, identified all the things that triggered the several periods of mass migration to Mastodon (shutting off api access, policy changes, shutting down conversation about alternatives) and decided to speed run it. Next thing is trying to directly monetise people by giving them a red tick or something.

- Yeah Genevieve Marie ruined Fark for me. That's when I went to Reddit. Now I've left Reddit for completely different reasons.
Technically it has kinda worked out for Twitter though. They still have a sizable userbase, its just a dumpster fire now.
- Probably depends on how you define success with these things. The valuation of the company is down a significant amount since it was purchased and recent reports had ad revenue also down a significant amount too. Whether the owner cares about those things is probably up for debate, and evidence would suggest he might be looking for something other than money out of it, like influence, or just a play thing. I'm not sure the owners of Reddit are motivated by the same things, I think they just want to be richer. Time will tell I guess, it's difficult to tell the difference between incompetence and intentional acts from the outside.
I mean, there's an argument to be made that reddit was going down this path long before Twitter, what with their hosting and perhaps even promotion of r/t_d
Reddit is shifting from user-focused to investor-focused and AI-focused. It doesn't matter what users think. They have done their job. They can all literally quit the site today, and it still doesn't sink Reddit's plans. Reddit has no reason to care what any user thinks anymore. Those days are over.
My assumption all along is that the new API pricing thing was in preparation for a backpedal where they implement a paid tier for users that includes third party app access
- Very plausible, but they can screw off with that psychological game bullshit. I am tired of everything being about profits these days. I want the early 2000s internet back!
  Centralization needs to die, and community collaboration needs to take its place so stuff like that stops happening.
  A single entity made a single decision, killing countless devs years of work in an instant.

Reddit really hates lemmy since lemmy is practically better than reddit

I haven't been this entertained by reddit shenanigans in a long time tbh

Is there any advantages to kbin over lemmy? php seems like a much worse tech stack for no benefit.

Kbin is nice. It’s easy to register on kbin.social so might as well check it out, although they are possibly under DDOS attack right now. I’m on there and lemmy at the moment.
Both systems are very similar and are compatible. You can follow lemmy from kbin and vice versa. Lemmy is probably more mature, but kbin is also pretty slick and seems to be moving fast. The community on kbin.social is fairly large so you will likely find more interaction on there without having to subscribe to federated servers. That probably makes onboarding a little easier for reddit refugees. They also have a microblog feature that works like Mastodon (federated twitter alternative) so you get to use lemmy-like and mastodon-like in one app and federate with both.
The fact that kbin is written in PHP shouldn’t put anybody off. Modern PHP isn’t the same as the old stuff that earned a bad reputation. I haven’t used PHP for a long time, but my understanding is it’s now a solid stack that’s on par with other mainstream stacks.
- You can follow people on kbin, can't follow them on Lemmy "because it would require an overhaul"
Honestly, I joined lemmy.ml first before really taking a look at the ideals of most of that userbase and I just do not agree with a large part of what they identify with.
Bounced around to a few other instances that all seemed... Idk not the right fit. But kbin so far seems much more my style and I finally now got an account created so we'll see how it goes.
- I feel like the server owner matters more than the platform itself. Which is to say that while I'm also not a fan of how far left the lemmy devs are, I have found some lemmy communities to be more in line with my values. I imagine if lemmy grows at all we're eventually going to see many views represented. So I think whether to use kbin or lemmy should really come down to aesthetic preferences. I personally prefer the look/feel of lemmy, but I respect anyone who prefers kbin. It's pretty cool that we can communicate across platforms. Really shows the power of ActivityPub.
- I'm curious what has turned you off here, since I'm very new. Reddit's weirdly right wing political tilt has been turning me off for some time now, hoping that's not the case here.
- Most of the communities federate with Lemmy though, so Idk if you can escape it.
  For example this post is on Lemmy.
  And now that I think about it it kind of makes sense. Most of the time if you want a non-corporate protocol, it's made by leftists or people that are really right-wing.
I think it might serve it's own niche. I heard the microblog tab makes it a bit nicer to see content from mastodon users that someone is following. so it could develop to be like a hybrid lemmy/mastodon type of tool. But I haven't read too much into what kbin is aiming to be
- those are the admins of one instance. if you don't like them, you can join another or create your own
- Must be traumatic to have your worldview questioned for the first time. They've been fed anti-communists propaganda from birth and are now trying to avert their eyes, lol. Reminds me of evangelicals when they encounter "satanic" media.
I mean it's easier to develop new features when you're using a language like PHP. I love Rust but it's going to be laughable at how slow they will move new features out compared to other platforms unless they can get a ton of more developer volunteer support (and way less people know Rust to begin with).
- How many new features are there really to add?
  I'd rather them be made in a much more solid language than having them fast.

Reddit is speedrunning the death of Twitter.

I'm just glad I got out and found lemmy

I run the r/kbin subreddit.

Used for spam. Right. 🙄

I joined here specifically because I saw that had been banned - they must see this as the threat. Anyone have any info about what was in the guide? I registered and subscribed to some things, but still getting my feet wet.

- Hello. I think your link doesn't reach to the correct destination. You have to put the url between the parentheses, (https://...), and the text to be shown between the brackets, [some text].

I’m on both beehaw and kbin. I’m still trying to understand kbin. I guess magazines are like communities? But the list of magazines, while long, appears to only be local? How do I see communities on other instances to subscribe to them? Beehaw is more understandable. I can see what instance someone is posting from. I can see and subscribe to communities for other instances. I can select to see all my subscriptions from any instance.

So for now, I’ll keep both my accounts. Let the dust settle. Learn how to drive “this thing” and eventually delete an account from a server that I don’t need. It’ll free up space for someone else.

You can find lemmy communities via the search function. Search with @COMMUNITY@LEMMY-INSTANCE, this produces a magazine that is linked to the community.
I don't think it has communities like Lemmy - it all seems to be kbin.social so it is all local. However, if you head over to Lemmy and locate the communities you want to follow from their big list (like the beehaw.org communities), you can add them to your kbin subscriptions and follow along from kbin. The only difference I've found is that Lemmy community links start with the ! sign, so that has to be changed to @ when you search for the community through kbin.
Edit: I'm keeping my kbin and my sh.itjust.works accounts for now to see which I prefer.
- It looks like someone is making an extension to handle subscribing to Lemmy communities easier from kbin. I'm still trying to figure it all out myself though.

@BreadDog Myself and @moarsalt created r/kbin and it hasn't been banned yet. Check it out and spread the word! I deleted my moderator account to it but can assist where needed.

Wow that was fast. Glad I managed to read the guide and register for an account before that happened.

That's crazy. This is the sole reason in decided to create a lemmy account.

Hello everyone, just saw this site and saw this post so created my account

Me too! It seems like a good place to transfer my unhealthy internet habits to.
Same here
Hi. Same here.
Same. And unless something change, I'll delete my 9y old account.
- Or you could just sell it to spammers!
  But seriously, I feel like it’s just folks who have been on Reddit for ages that really care about this, those of us who likely switched to an app like Apollo after the Reddit redesign. I can’t handle the ‘new’ look and feel, nor can I handle the official app.
  I suspect folks who began using Reddit apres the redesign don’t know/don’t care and will continue on.
welcome to kbin!

Admin-level moderation is getting quite out of hand I see.

I was browsing it while sitting in a drive thru. Got home and it was gone. Unbelievable.

What can you even say except lol?

[Your Reddit account has been permanently suspended]
- Jokes on them, I purged all my accounts.

Just joined kbin because of this. Still feeling my away around, but glad to be here.

glad to have you!

Do you think this was maybe mishandled a smidge?

BOOO SPEZ GO BACK TO REDDIT unless you aren’t spez then stay hate
- Definitely a joke account, but a pretty great one :)

Why am I not surprised...

All the more reason to migrate...

I tried to register for Kbin and never got the registration email.

Sorry if this is a dumb question - wtf is Kbin? I ass it mentioned on here everywhere, is it another Lemmy instance? I feel out of the loop!
- kbin is part of the federation - like Lemmy - but it is coded differently and has a different developer. Since it is part of the federation, though, Lemmy users can subscribe to kbin communities (called magazines) and vice versa. kbin has threads like Lemmy, but it also has a micro blogging option similar to Twitter/Mastodon.
Could it have gone into a spam folder?

does anyone know what information the guide contained? all I did when I signed up was click "Register" and create an account. is there anything I'm missing out on, or extra steps that I should take?

Yeah, I would love to know what was in that guide to maximize my experience here.
- Yep. There's here, and there's ....now what the hell do I do?
- So far what I've done apart from registering is subscribing to the large communities on Lemmy that I'm interested in, you can find them here https://lemmy.ml/communities/listingtype/All/page/1
  For example you can subscribe these communities just by searching them on kbin like this @gaming@beehaw.org.
  However it seems like the kbin feed is already doing a good job at showing popular lemmy communities.
From what I remember, I don’t think there were any extra steps besides registering. The guide did go into detail explaining what kbin.social is for those looking for alternatives for reddit.

Man what a shit show

Do you think this maybe mishandled?

It is strange that they neither banned Lemmymigration or Reddit alternatives

Has anyone been able to get mlem iOS app to connect to kbin yet? I just get a long timeout and then a generic error message.

Kbin doesn't have a Lemmy compatible API, though it's something the lead dev (and the Lemmy devs) have been discussing. But the instances can federate to each other beautifully.
For now your best bet would be using kbin as a PWA, which works great in my experience.
Info here: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/07/19/howto-progressive-web-apps-iphone-ipad/
- Thank you so much! I forgot about this option. :)
- How did I not know about this? I've been using a shortcut that opens the URL in my phone browser, which is way less elegant. Works fabulously, thanks!!
AFAIK, kbin uses a different url scheme so Mlem might not be set up to handle that. The alternative I’ve seen suggested is to use kbin’s progressive web app (PWA) and install it as a pseudo-app. It works well enough for now. I do hope more native can exist in the future.