In Uvalde, Students Followed Active Shooter Protocol. The Cops Did Not.
In Uvalde, Students Followed Active Shooter Protocol. The Cops Did Not.

In Uvalde, Students Followed Active Shooter Protocol. The Cops Did Not.

In Uvalde, Students Followed Active Shooter Protocol. The Cops Did Not.
In Uvalde, Students Followed Active Shooter Protocol. The Cops Did Not.
All too often, the police act like wannabe Rambos - charging in with guns drawn, willing to shoot or kill any suspects in their way. The ONE time that this might have been welcomed and they decided to sit on the side and do nothing. Okay, maybe not nothing. They harassed parents who were screaming about their kids being killed.
willing to shoot or kill any unarmed suspects
Time and time again: They'll gladly act when they can use overwhelming force. But when they are up against a similarly armed individual (ar-15 firing similar rounds to the military, body armor, etc), they cower in fear. Sometimes SWAT will actually act, but usually in situations where they can more or less level the building with tanks and explosives.
Its one of the best arguments for gun control. Because if we didn't have ready access to assault rifles that were literally designed for military purposes and that fire one of the nastier rounds in existence*, then maybe "a good guy with a gun" would have any effect at all.
And just in case anyone thinks bump stocks or illegal modifications will let them stand up to the army: the army has "real" tanks, air support, drones, and a lot more explosives per soldier. You won't stand a chance and, if anything, a concealable pistol chambered for one of the small caliber/high velocity rounds is more effective for a resistance force.
*: If anyone hasn't read this before, it is well worth the horror. Obviously lots of content warnings https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/
Time and time again: They’ll gladly act when they can use overwhelming force. But when they are up against a similarly armed individual (ar-15 firing similar rounds to the military, body armor, etc), they cower in fear.
You mean twice? Uvalde and Cloward? I can think of other times where regular street cops did in fact charge in right away even in the face of killers armed with AR-15s.
Because if we didn’t have ready access to assault rifles that were literally designed for military purposes and that fire one of the nastier rounds in existence
The .223 / 5.56mm isn't even CLOSE to one of the nastier rounds in existence. It's an intermediate cartridge with low power relative to real rifle calibers like the 7.62, .308, or 30-06. At 100 yards or less, the distance most mass shootings take place, even a 12 Gauge shotgun is vastly more destructive.
...then maybe “a good guy with a gun” would have any effect at all.
Plenty of "Good Guys with a Gun" have ended shooters armed with shotguns and rifles. The issue isn't one of weaponary but of numbers, there just AREN'T that many overall and the odds of there being one in the right place at the right time are nearly zero. They can be amazingly effective when it happens though.
And just in case anyone thinks bump stocks or illegal modifications will let them stand up to the army: the army has “real” tanks, air support, drones, and a lot more explosives per soldier.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Syria...the list of conflicts that show this to be false as very long. Full Auto fire, whether through illegal modification or Bump Stock is stupid anyway and even the US Military has put controls on its use.
...a concealable pistol chambered for one of the small caliber/high velocity rounds is more effective for a resistance force.
It's so great that it's commonly used by literally no resistance force anywhere in the world. It is commonly used by Concealed Carry Weapons Permit holders though...like the one in the link up above.
I love this comedian's take on the NRA "we can take on the military with our guns" types: https://youtu.be/WOSqCjMRXWA?si=TTFMx6fLMx_akDYl
Those kids exhibited poise and bravery that the cops didn't and couldn't even comprehend. To no avail. I don't know how much more can be said about this incident that hasn't already been, but I wish a pox on every one of those useless officers. I wish upon them the most horrible things that can't even be spoken of. What a way for kids to learn that adults, even the most trusted ones, can be stupid and disappointing.
I don't spend very much time on hate, but I'll make an exception for them.
I think there's more that can be said, especially as more information is released.
I know I learned more about the experience of the kids from this story, and how much some of the cops feel failed by their organizations.
I value the kids' perspectives so much because they are the ones whose voices (probably rightly so) have been missing from the story until now. To hear the kids sobbing on the bus after finally getting out...the girl who only wanted to let the adults know that she tried to help her friends. It destroys me to hear she, and others, had to be the ones to give love and care to those around them instead of the adults they could hear on the other side of the door.
ACAB and many are also cowards.
I would have a hard time coming up with a singular more salient reason to defund the police than Uvalde.
we have cops in schools "to protect students" but all they ever do is just arrest mostly black kids for offenses that used to just get you sent to the principal's office, and when the big bad shooter does show up the school cop just runs away and coplovers defend them saying "they have no duty to protect" and "it was dangerous"
“they have no duty to protect”
And they are correct when they say that. Police was invented to protect the property of the rich - that's their only real duty. Everything else is propaganda to normalize the presence of this violent paramilitary that was fascist long before Mussolini gave it a name.
I'm still stunned. Shooter massacres kids and this nation does nothing. Again. Unreal but unfortunately not unexpected.
The UK jumped into action the moment they had their first school shooting. The US got mad at anyone who suggested we do anything. And still does.
So much so that even then President pisses their panties if they have to even mention the word firearms.
Cops not following their training?! What the? Who could have possibly foreseen such a thing?! This is completely and utterly shocking! I am absolutely flabbergasted by the news that cops don't follow rules that they spend tons of money every year getting trained on! What a complete surprise and I'm sure no one ever in the history of the world would have ever predicted!
You're right and it sounds like there's a large lack of training in the first place. The fact that the schools do far more training and that the kids were left to bleed out because the cops assumed if kids were hurt they would've heard kids crying or screaming (they were silent because they were taught not to make any noise during an active shooter event), makes my blood boil.
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Students should receive 100% wage garnish from all the cops and the cops be forced back to school until the cops are able to graduate.
Given what we've seen with cops, given their fights that have made it to the Supreme Court where they argued successfully that they have no duty to protect and serve the public, I'd say the cops did follow their Active Shooter Protocol.
Wasn't this known from day 1? We had footage like 2 years ago? Nothing happened, nothing will happen. Just get used to it.
Actually something will happen. Other cops will see you can just stand back without consequences and will do likewise.
If enough of them live long enough to experience a future. Saddest sentence I've written in a long time.
I really feel for the reporters who watched this footage to write this. I can barely read the word Uvalde without feeling despair and rage, and to watch it happen again and again must have been incredibly hard.
I'd seen this earlier, but didn't read the article until tonight. The sadness and anger are each far too familiar.
At this point an AI police force would probably be safer and more effective, as distopian as it sounds
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Given the propensity of gpt to « fill the gaps » and « follow the narrative » what’s the benefit you expect ? Inability to hold a gun since it doesn’t have hands?
Also same difference due to training bias of models; they would likely flag the black guy given it would be fed crafted training material the same way your cops are biased…
I for one welcome our AI Overlords. Either that or an alien hivemind.
Hashtag TheBorgDidNothingWrong
I guess that's the kind of policing Uvalde wants 🤷♂️
Not sure why anyone would want to live in a town like that though.
Well the kids don't have a choice or a vote. Some, permanently now.
Reminds me of the Douglas Adam’s bit
[Ford said] ".. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur. "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford. "It is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they voted in more or less approximates to the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?" "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going in for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.
Ah, so they aren't getting the protection they need but they are getting the protection they deserve.
Politics are more complicated than that. Nobody deserves to have their children murdered because of their mistakes, even if it's an expected outcome.
"but Dems eat babies!"