Linux @lemmy.ml JPAKx4 @lemmy.blahaj.zone 2y ago

Why didn't anyone remind me the dual booting exists?

I was talking to my dad yesterday and he talked about how he dual booted windows and Linux in his college days. I immediately left to download Ubuntu, I feel so dumb for forgetting it's an option. I literally only use windows so I can play Fortnite with friends. PSA: you can have both Linux and Windows, or you can use a vm in Linux. Be (mostly) free from Microsoft's clammy hands.

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I always found having each OS have a separate physical drive is much better, but partitioning is fine if you must.
- Third world countries: We must 😔...
  
  It's a luxury indeed. Hopefully maybe a little less now that decent storage has come down in price a lot
- Partitioning is great with a boot partition for each OS,and linux chainloading to windows. Then I have aseparate NTFS drive as secondary drive in Windows and Linux, in case I need to work on data in either OS
  
  Partitioning is great with a boot partition for each OS
  
  Until Windows eats your Linux boot partition. I've learned my lesson, I only dual boot with separate drives now
I installed a second SSD into my new laptop and installed Debian on it. I set the new drive as the primary boot drive so windows doesn’t get a say and only loads when I select it from the boot menu. This way windows can’t trash the boot loader when it updates.
- So much this, having each OS in a separate drive saves so many headaches
As others have said, I also highly recommend physically separate drives. I have found both Linux and Windows affect each other sometimes especially when you're getting your bearings with dual booting.

For instance, after running Linux the clock in Windows will be wrong. And Windows will eat the Linux boot partition especially after feature packs (formerly called service packs), which come out about 1-2/year.
- Just in case anyone stumbles in to this, there is a fix for the time issue:
  
  https://itsfoss.com/wrong-time-dual-boot/
  
  The better way is to fix Windows to use a sensible system time. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_time#UTC_in_Microsoft_Windows
- Just install linux 2nd and have it probe foreign OS, and create a linux only boot partition. Grub will then make a chainloader entry to windows boot partition. Linux won't care if you select windows chainload option, and Windows won't know it ia being chainloaded. No OS overlap. just set Grub Boot entry as primary boot in BIOS, EFI.
- Anecdotally I've been dual booting Windows 11/Linux on my laptop for a couple years and I've never had issues with Windows affecting the boot partition and I feel like this is much less common with EFI. You can even have a separate EFI partition for Linux and choose boot order from the BIOS.
  
  I've always done partition based dual booting since I first started using Linux and the last time I remember having an issue with Windows fucking with boot setup was like early/mid 2010s and it's only happened a couple times in like 10 years of on and off dual booting.
We used to dual boot before virtualization matured.
imo dual booting is kinda clunky. Id rather have a vm of windows tbh. I dont like restarting my pc to swtich OS.

But hey if you like it, more power to you man.
- Only did it bc anti cheats. I would use vms otherwise.
  
  Ah I gotcha. Another option im considering is using a separate pc for windows and using a kvm to switch between them. That may be a good option for you as well if you can swing it.
- Are there any performance losses running Windows VM to play games? Asking as I am new to this.
Be aware that Windows will snitch on you if you run it in a VM. I don't know about Forkknife in particular, but if a game's TOS prohibits it, or the anti-cheat is having a bad day, it might get you banned. There are ways to trick Windows into thinking it's running on metal, but it's always a risk.
- That's why I went with dual booting over a vm. Battleye and ez anti cheat both try to detect even Microsoft's hyper-v.
  
  thats the reason i dont play those Games anymore(although i would love to). i cannot live with the fact, that i am not in charge on my own device
I only boot windows for Fortnite and The Crew 2 because of BS DRM. Everything else runs great.
Personally I'm not a fan of dual booting. Admittedly it's been many years since I have evn tried (now that virtualization is what it is), but when I did, grub would always break on me. It just wasn't worth the hassle. Now to think of having to reboot to switch just makes me cringe. Lol
Use Grub2Win (https://sourceforge.net/projects/grub2win/) whenever Windows manages to break dual booting. It'll stop fucking up afterwards, as it'll be installed within one of the windows boot partitions.
i dual boot bc of the adobe software i use for work and wine/proton doesn't work with the shit ton of skyrim mods I play with. straight up crashes.
- re: Skyrim, could just be that some SKSE mod you're using needs some newer .net runtime or similar
  
  could also be not enough vram (even if you have enough ram wine/proton could have it's vram allowance set too low)
  
  If you don't already have one get a crashlogger, for SkyrimSE 1.5.97 I would recommend .NET Script Framework (and use SSE Engine Fixes skse64 preloader instead of DLL Plugin Loader)
  
  If you already knew about all this and still having issues then don't mind me
Oh man... I feel like 20 years older than I did before I read this post.

I ended up using an external ssd for my "windows" computer. Back when I used to dual boot windows and Linux Windows update would break it. ...I suppose I could have kept notes on how to fix it, but Im lazy.

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