Does alien.top do anything other than mirror reddit comments?
Does alien.top do anything other than mirror reddit comments?
I have just realised that alien.top seems to be mirroring reddit accounts, posts and comments, without labelling them as such. What is the point of this one way mirroring? As soon as users realise, they are going to just leave. There is no point having a discussion with a bot that cannot respond.
without labelling them as such
All accounts are marked as bots.
What is the point of this one way mirroring?
The tool is to help reddit users migrate to Lemmy. By going to the portal, reddit users can "take over" their reddit mirror account and get started on Lemmy already subscribed to the same communities they subscribed on reddit.
There is no point having a discussion with a bot that cannot respond.
I'm also working on two-way mirroring, but even without it is already very useful... Do you know the "rule" of 90/9/1? On every social media network, 90% of the users are just lurking. 9% participate in the discussion occasionally and 1% are prolific participants. In my case, thanks to fediverser, I managed to unsub from almost 40 subreddits I was subscribed, but I managed to bring this number to 2 (/r/fediverse and /r/redditalternatives)
As soon as users realise, they are going to just leave.
I'm not going to say which to avoid the Streisand effect, but I'm seeing some communities that already have interesting conversations between organic users which could have only have started because of some comment thread that has been mirrored.
They are definitely not appearing as bots in Connect.
I am aware of the 90/9/1 rule, i dont agree this is the solution.
I may be the outlyer, but now that i am aware of it, i am blocking alien.top, and will not waste time interacting with bots.
They are definitely not appearing as bots in Connect.
If the accounts from alien.top you are seeing are not marked as bots, then it means that you interacted with an actual person who has taken over their account. ;)
i dont agree this is the solution.
Then how about help and come up with something better?
will not waste time interacting with bots.
Then don't interact with the bots. You can, e.g, write the comment on Lemmy and send a DM to the original redditor, inviting them to join the instance/community. I did that to dozens of people already.
Oh wow that's cool, I was wondering how this would be different from Lemmit. Really cool
How does 2 way mirroring work? How are you planning to fund / keep the instance stable?
How does 2 way mirroring work?
That will depend on a few things:
- If it's an user that has "converted" via alien.top's portal, we can work as a real reddit client and send message on behalf of the user.
- If the lemmy user is not on alien.top but wants to enable a two-way bridge, then we will have to do an authentication dance and send messages with passcodes to both reddit and lemmy.
- If the user does not want a bridge, we can still send a message to the reddit thread via another bot.
The last one would be the easiest to implement, but I'm avoiding releasing this because it might be taken down due to spam.
That's really cool. I got to do that with my Reddit account. Thx
It is by design https://portal.alien.top/about
@rglullis@communick.news is the creator
Hmm. I doubt they have any interest in reversing course, so i guess I will just block instead.
I am not a lawyer, but it does feel a bit wrong to mirror accounts, kinda defeats right-to-be-forgotten laws. Hopefully they know what they are doing.
I think that right to be forgotten is untenable in anything you publicly put into the internet. I know a bit off topic...
Once someone has open access to it (like reddit/lemmy). You are implicitly implying that you want anonymous access of that information to the wider world.
Do you think it is even possible? (BTW, im not being a dick, just interested)
Also not a lawyer, but right to be forgotten applies to search engines to remove articles from the search index. Originally applied to news articles some guy in Spain didn't want showing up when you google'd his name. The law doesn't require the publisher to remove the content from their website, but instead requires search engines to remove the links in results.
So if someone's comment was mirrored to Lemmy AND that comment was indexed by a search engine linking back to a Lemmy instance, then you still have the right to request Google or Bing or whatever to remove those links from search results via the same process.