Does alien.top do anything other than mirror reddit comments?
Does alien.top do anything other than mirror reddit comments?
I have just realised that alien.top seems to be mirroring reddit accounts, posts and comments, without labelling them as such. What is the point of this one way mirroring? As soon as users realise, they are going to just leave. There is no point having a discussion with a bot that cannot respond.
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It is by design https://portal.alien.top/about
@rglullis@communick.news is the creator
Hmm. I doubt they have any interest in reversing course, so i guess I will just block instead.
I am not a lawyer, but it does feel a bit wrong to mirror accounts, kinda defeats right-to-be-forgotten laws. Hopefully they know what they are doing.
- The right to be forgotten applies to PII. Comments can contain PII but usually don't.
- The right to be forgotten applies to your private relationship with a company. Comments in public forums are, well, public. You can't force the public to forget what you said.
You might be right, I have no idea. But still feels a bit wrongish.
There certainly were people here upset that reddit wasnt deleting their comments when they deleted their accounts, this feels kinda similar.
In this case you could make a very clear case that alien.top is infringing on copyright because those users only gave Reddit a worldwide irrevocable perpetual license to their postings, not anyone else.
User agreements aren't really enforceable, and in this case, there would be a LOT of pressure on the side of fighting for the right to use public comments externally.
Because if reddit got their way, then that means publications can no longer cite Twitter comments. And if publications can't rob Twitter comment, then they fucking die.
No, I don't agree with the bot mirrors either. In fact, me and some friends found a 4chan mirror last month that was plastered with ads and replaced all instances of anon or a board name with some other words. The concept just feels scummy.
On the other hand, mirrors allow for users who wish to not or are blocked from engaging with reddit directly to still access it.
User agreements aren’t really enforceable
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if reddit got their way, then that means publications can no longer cite Twitter comments.
Why would publications no longer be able to execute their right of fair use?
I think that right to be forgotten is untenable in anything you publicly put into the internet. I know a bit off topic...
Once someone has open access to it (like reddit/lemmy). You are implicitly implying that you want anonymous access of that information to the wider world.
Do you think it is even possible? (BTW, im not being a dick, just interested)
Yeah, it realistically isnt feasable to actually be forgotten. But that doesnt mean we should deliberately make it harder either.
Ultimately, its not my problem, its not my account being mirrored, but if one of the users does find out that its happening, and they dont like it, the owner of alien.top would potentially have a legal battle on their hands. As long as they are comfortable with that risk, im not gonna stop them.
Yeah fair enough.
Also not a lawyer, but right to be forgotten applies to search engines to remove articles from the search index. Originally applied to news articles some guy in Spain didn't want showing up when you google'd his name. The law doesn't require the publisher to remove the content from their website, but instead requires search engines to remove the links in results.
So if someone's comment was mirrored to Lemmy AND that comment was indexed by a search engine linking back to a Lemmy instance, then you still have the right to request Google or Bing or whatever to remove those links from search results via the same process.