Israeli settler shoots and kills Palestinian harvester as violence surges in the West Bank
Israeli settler shoots and kills Palestinian harvester as violence surges in the West Bank
But then when the guy's son picks up an AK and takes revenge he is a terrorist
If he murders the person who murdered his father he would be a murderer.
If he murders random civilians who were unrelated to the incident, then yes. He is a terrorist.
Terror is terror. There is no excuse for intentionally targeting civilians. It's murder at best, and terrorism at worst.
So according to your logic, the Israelian gunman is a terrorist, because he murdered a random civilian based on racial hatred.
If that settler goes to jail for murder as he should in a civilized society then sure, but if it's a lawless society and he doesn't go to jail then what you're saying is irrelevant partisan labeling.
Your point would hold more weight if this was the only example of such an incident. His father wasn't the first person he knew who was killed by an Israeli soldier...the same group that's kept him behind barbed wire fences his whole life.
I'm not excusing it but you're way oversimplifying it. How could you blame a kid for demonizing all Israelis with all that he's seen? It's not like he's been allowed to mingle with the good citizens of Israel even if they're the majority
That's exactly why the IDF is functionally a terrorist organization. A terrorist organization that mandates service of citizens no less. Despicable.
I don't "agree" with it (I am just not making a judgment), but terrorism is frequently useful.
Terrorism is a tool used by any revolutionary group to force change to be enacted. It really just depends on if the revolutionary group is successful whether they're called terrorists after the fact.
It's also utilized by every nation to enforce order, but they just don't call it that and they control the media. Terrorism is only called that when it's the tools of the oppressor are used by the oppressed. Israel had killed 22.4x more Palestinians than Israelis had been killed by 2020. I think it only got worse since then, but this is the data I saw first. It's definitely way worse now.
death by aerial bombardment would be my guess.
But did that farm worker condemn Hamas?
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If only the Israelis could be paid $100 to fuck off
In total, since 2005, only 3% of investigation files opened following ideologically motivated offenses Israelis committed against Palestinians in the West Bank led to convictions.
Let that sink in!
Those 3% of genocidal terror israelis probably forgot to condemn Hamas
if only 3% have been investigated, how do you know they were ideologically motivated? just assuming?
Led to convictions, not investigated. 97% of cases opened by police did not result in any convictions.
I thought the scripture was quite clear with that whole "Thou shalt not kill" part...
Ah, but that says not to kill people. It says nothing about killing rats! /s
Seriously, though, that's exactly why we're so capable of committing atrocities: we dehumanize each other until we consider it acceptable to kill. Portraying Jews as rats and subhuman is exactly how the Holocaust happened, and portraying Palestinians as subhuman is exactly how Israel is currently doing what they're doing.
Nah it's ok god is always on their side. (Any group that does terrorist shit)
Jewish scripture always left room for murder.
This book, popular among the Israeli religious right, shows that their thinking (that segment) is much like Da'esh but for Jews: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torat_Hamelekh
Even Al Qaeda thought that killings at least needed a reason.
From what I understand, the colonists usually are, though.
We all know terrorist can't read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelisettlement
Just a reminder that Palestinians attack wasn't just out of the blue, Israel has been slowly killing and driving them out from their land for as long as they've been there.
The international community consider Israeli settlements to be illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
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Massacring 1400 innocents and kidnapping 200 more never has justification.
There's a difference between justifications and reasons. I'm exhausted seeing people use the fact that atrocities are unjustified to hand wave away the reasons and circumstances that led to those atrocities.
The massacring of innocents isn't justified, but the reason it happened isn't that people magically became evil. The reason is that enduring apartheid oppression pushes people to extremism.
what's your plan then to stop the extermination of your country?
Why were the settlers there? Why were they carrying guns there?
They try to defend themselves with "they were throwing rocks at us", but that clearly indicates they were up to something untoward there in the first place.
They’re not out there trying to win hearts and minds, that’s for sure.
There was a video yesterday of terror israelis posing threatening and blocking the road to the land of Palestinian olive trees while Palestinians tried to harvest
https://youtu.be/UuMUuqqa7NM?si=m0kSUnEn7lxV5qWy
I guess one of those terror israelis decided it was time to do some more western backed war crimes.
Just read this article and get more infuriated:
*Samaria Regional Council head Yossi Dagan issued a rare video statement on Shabbat describing the incident: “This incident is a simple incident,” he claimed, saying that the settler family involved was “upstanding,” and a father and “son, a combat soldier on weekend leave” were “attacked with rocks by dozens of wild Hamas supporters.”
The son, claimed Dagan, “fired in the air to protect the life of his father and younger brothers… the details are clear and straightforward. A family was attacked and I completely back the on-leave soldier who protected his family.” *
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Off duty means he will likely end up in front of a military court and they will ask three things: if he followed military procedure for opening live fire, if he felt there was a non-violent way to resolve the incident, and why he was there in the first place. He'll get reprimanded, potentially sentenced for murder, and possibly discharged. More likely is he'll deny guilt, make some claims and bring family as witnesses. In the end, he might even get away with less than a year in military prison.
Even this is highly unlikely: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/data-sheet-december-2022-law-enforcement-on-israeli-civilians-in-the-west-bank-settler-violence-2005-2022/
The reality is that law enforcement forces are just closing their eyes when there is a crime committed against Palestinians and I can imagine that now the bias would be even higher, so most likely he will get away with this murder.
discharged? during an active conflict? just send his ass to the front
Here is your MTAR Yosef!
Yes, I was thinking the same that war won't happen again in Europe that we as humanity have evolved sufficiently to realise that violence is never the answer, but reality has proved me wrong.
I really liked what Jordan's deputy prime Minister has said:
“Violence will only make things worse,“ he added. “The amount of hatred that will come out of this amount of misery will not lead to peace.”
Followup on this: the settler has been arrested by military police
The west needs to step in again, ctrl-z the postww2 treaties, and give the land back to palestinians. Israel has squandered its chance and this heaping pile of shit all stems from dickheads trying to make the Bible true.
Unfortunately, none of the west's support is really because we think it's good to help Jewish people. At the end of WWII, virtually no middle eastern states were similar to our ideology, and most of the natural resources to power our war machines were located there. Additionally, it's at the boundary of three other geopolitical centers of commands.
Israel is America's ability to project power, that's why we give them so much money
Can we all agree the word "settler" can fucking do one here? You don't "settle" already occupied land. You invade it.
he had a right to self defense in the land he occupied
This is the best summary I could come up with:
This brings the number of Palestinians reported killed by settlers to seven since Hamas’s bloody incursion into Israel three weeks ago.
Tayseer Mahmoud said his nephew, Bilal Saleh, was working in the grove in the village of Sawiya with his wife and their four children on Saturday when a group of settlers attacked them.
Settler leader Yossi Dagan said in a video posted on the social media p(platform Facebook Saturday that the shooter was accompanied by family members and fired in self-defense after they were “attacked with rocks by dozens of rioting Hamas supporters.”
The deadly shooting took place amid a spike in settler violence since Hamas militants infiltrated Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking over 230 others hostage.
In addition to the killings, Palestinians in the West Bank have reported attacks on people and property, as well as denial of access to their land.
Since the outbreak of the war alone, more than 100 Palestinians, including civilians, have been killed, most during military arrest raids and violent protests in the West Bank.
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They did that for the Last 70 years and Western powers, champions of humans rights didn't flinch. but they will sure that a dead dog in their backyard becomes concern of every other nation.
Terrorist settler kills Palestinian harvesting olives on his land. Terrorist settler: how could Hamas do this?
Where is the Palestinian right to self defence?