"...And MTG threw a tantrum on the way out. Win-win"

I will never not read that as magic the gathering, it makes the news so much better

Which in turn reminds me of this internet classic that never fails to make me laugh
https://youtu.be/pWZbqXaGXsM
What's it supposed to be?
- Marjorie Taylor Green, Congress woman from Georgia. (Jewish space laser)
- Wait... Does she matter? Why is there such an overlap between politicians in the US, and people you are surprised aren't in an asylum?
Has this MTG ever sicced the Pinkertons on someone?
- She probably would if she had the opportunity.

I think that MTG, and a lot of commenters on here, need to realise that Ukraine will not stop this war until Russia are out, regardless of the international support or otherwise. Even if Ukraine is overrun completely the war would not stop, but would go on until Russia leave.

I would add three things to what they need to realize:
It is possible for Ukraine to win.
Russia is a ruthless and incompetent oligarchy, and they cannot be allowed to expand their territory.
Fighting or fleeing are vastly preferable to being subsumed by Russia.
- All perfectly correct. However, it is a war that Russia will never win, like Afghanistan.
To add on -- we need to recognize that Russia is trying to enforce the old rules of imperialism. In their eyes, Ukraine did not have the right to determine their own future and who they wanted to ally with. Russia had to approve of all their decisions and Russia controlled them.
Defeating Russia is more then Ukrainian independence. It is an unequivocal statement by the West that we will not allow imperialism nor wars of conquest to resurface in Europe. And hopefully with time, this extends to the rest of the world too, and other countries will check Western ones if we begin to forget that.
At the end of the day, a country's sovereignty and right to self determination are sacred, only to be stripped if they use it to deny others of the same. There is a clear leftist geopolitical perspective here for continuing to back Ukraine.
- To add on -- we need to recognize that Russia is trying to enforce the old rules of imperialism.
  Which is absolutely bullshit when you consider that originally Moscow was in Ukraine, not Russia
- That's great and all, but mostly it's keeping one of their largest geopolitical rivals tied up in a war that saps their strength at relatively small cost.
People refuse to recognize that the Ukrainian people do not want to be taken over by the Russians. There's no good reason why they should be. They refuse to acknowledge the desires of the people, maybe because fighting back against an oppressor is foreign to their own cowardly psychology.
You should rephrase this, almost looks like you believe Ukraine wants to be attacked by war criminals and terrorists.

the next tweet, wonder when marge started throwing a fit

the tantrum, btw
- I can't believe the Republicans are appeasers. They beat the drum for decades how Democrats couldn't stand up to tyrants, and now Republicans are literally appeasers. It's 1984 levels of turnaround.
- Fun fact for those on the fence about this, the US has monetary sovereignty in a fiat currency, which means that the US government has essentially infinite money.
  Edit: for those that are curious, yes, the game about the federal budget is exactly that. The deficit is essentially tracking the amount of money that the federal government owes to itself. Remember, fiat currency means that the value of money exists because the government says that it holds that specific value. A $2 dollar bill is still worth $2 when purchasing items, but worth several $ more than the printed value.
  Edit 2: I didn't think it needed to be said, but I've been proven wrong. I don't literally mean infinite money.
- Holy shit.. they’re STILL on about “the Clintons”? At least it wasn’t the Clinton Soros Obama Global Initiative…
- Lol

How is it "clean" when it defunded support for Ukraine and added pay increases for Congress?

They're funded through next Feb, iirc. They're not going to run out of support - until the next shitshow discussion that is
- IIRC Ukraine funding was deemed important to national security, so was exempt from any shutdown.
If it's any consolation Congress can't raise their own pay for the current term, the increase will go into effect starting Jan 1st 2025
- They can eat my entire ass. Pre shower.
- That's something they throw into bills to trick people that don't know how they actually make their money.

I thought that just got taken off the table for now, not defunded.
- fix Ukraine support
  unclear

Democrats need to hit back more like AOC does

And Fetterman. These two really make me smile with their next level trolling.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, who, yes, is a MAGA Trump Gangster.
Magic The Gathering.
- Cardboard crack.
Marie Taylor Greene, so you were not far from truth.
- Isn't she supposed to be getting a divorce? Will that mean she just becomes empty?
- jor <-- you dropped this
Close enough
marjorie taylor greene

I would've preferred if Ukraine funding was still in there, but MTG screeching is an alright consolation.

I find it interesting too how many people wanted "a clean bill" but then voted against it anyway because it didn't have extra stuff they wanted or, in Rand Paul's case, they're fucking pieces of shit.