It's been a few years since I've needed to install a version of Windows on a PC for personal use. I have a license for Windows 10 Pro, but today I found out it is no longer possible to get through the installation without first creating an account with Microsoft.
I don't want to do this. Does anybody have any way to get around it? The stuff I've read online basically ends up being create your account switch to a local account after installation and delete your account. I want a better solution. Would installing a much older version of Windows 10 work? The whole reason I got an msdn license back in the day is so I didn't have to do this.
Edit: 10/2/2023
I thank you all for giving me advice and ideas. Much I had already tried before posting my question here, and some suggestions and experiences led me to keep at it. Here's my experience for others who have a similar problem.
I downloaded the ISO from Microsoft - Win10_22H2_English_x64v1. I used Ventoy to launch the installer. The first time I went through, I connected to Wi-Fi. As soon as I did that, it sealed my fate. By this time in the process, it installed the boot partition on my HD and saved this information so every time I tried to restart the installer, it always went through language, keyboard, then "enter email address". All the suggestions for fake values simply triggered "This email is already used. Please choose another", and that was it.
I was getting ready to wipe the partition and try again, but decided to turn off Wi-Fi in the BIOS first to see if that worked. It did. This time it tried to convince me to set up the network and failed and I was able to create a local account.
The way this multi-version installer works is annoying. It installed Windows Home edition, so I had to "know" that I could go to settings and enter a key. Once I put in the key, it "upgraded" to Pro edition, and I was done.
Next time I have to do this, I'll see if Rufus works. It seems that will remove some annoyance. Either way, I will avoid configuring Wi-Fi until after install next time. I gotta say, I am not looking forward to the day when I must upgrade to Windows 11. So far I've been able to avoid actually buying a new copy due to my aging MSDN key. By the time I'm forced to "upgrade", I might have to cough up some cash for something I don't want, but am forced to own.
It should be illegal.
Anyway, now that I know I can still use my MSDN key to get an updated Win 10, I feel a bit more comfortable with re-imaging my Dell laptop from dual-boot to Linux only, then install Windows as a VM for these times I need to use it. Fortunately, that is increasingly rare.
For 10, unplug ethernet or do not connect to wi-fi and it should all you to continue or allow you to skip creating an MS account.
On the one system I use for gaming, before I install 10 which I have done a few times, I shutdown computer, physically unplug ethernet cable, then turn on computer and start the installation process, and I've created a local account everytime. Do not plug in cable or connect online until Windows has rebooted to the start desktop with Start menu. If you connect during installation it could force you to create online account.
This one got me to track down why it never asked for Wi-Fi after I interrupted and restarted the machine. The moment I entered it, the info was saved on the boot partition. Once it tricked me, there was no obvious way out. I turned off Wi-Fi in the BIOS, and that worked.
Did you run a progran to proactive zero out and wipe the whole drive like Parted Magic and then reboot system to load Windows boot media or did you use the Windows installer to only delete the partitions and install Windows again but not actively wipe the drive first?
Hmm on the last few installs I've done (both Win 10 and 11) I just lead the installation to believe I'll be doing a corporate/domain install & it always lets me create a normal user/password after that. Not necessary to unplug any ethernet/internet or anything of the sort.
It's always worked for me both at work and at home.
Just to be sure, I spun up a virtual machine to install Windows 10 22H2, here are the steps I went through:
Boot into the Windows 10 installer, jump into the installer & run through all the initial install steps until we get to the OOBE (Windows 10 out-of-box-experience post installer)
Select your Region, click Yes
Select your Keyboard Layout, click Yes
Skip Second Keyboard Layout (unless you want one)
Let it keep going, it might restart (mine did)
At the Account screen select Set Up For An Organization then click Next
At the "Sign In With Microsoft" screen select "Domain join instead"
At the "What name do you want to use?" screen enter your new Windows user account name and click Next
At the Password screen enter a password for your Windows user account and click Next
Re-enter your password and click Next
Set up a security question/answer - Or do like I do & fake them all e.g. select a security question then enter random gibberish alphanumeric text - and click Next
(do the same for all 3 security questions)
Select your Privacy settings then click Accept
Accept or skip any customizations you want (I usually Skip)
For Cortana you can click "Not Now" or "Accept" up to you
Done! You now installed Windows 10 Pro without a Microsoft Account.
6-8 is not a choice I am given. The installer for Windows 10 is a "multi-release" package. It contains all the distributions, so I cannot download the "pro" version or the "home" version.
Just to be sure, did you download some strange version of the .iso from some non-official source? Or did you modify your Windows install in some way?
And you're definitely selecting to install Windows 10 Pro, not something else?
I assumed you downloaded the generic .iso direct from Microsoft at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 like most people do. (you can use the browser trick to get the page to give you .iso download options e.g. in Chrome I just hit F12, set the dimensions to something mobile looking, hit F5 to refresh the page, then go ahead & download the .iso)
The generic .iso is indeed a multi with the download option named "Windows 10 (multi-edition ISO)", that itself doesn't affect any of the steps above.
Then just use Rufus or similar to create a bootable USB with it.
Neither of these worked. I know now that was because the installer had installed itself on the boot partition with the Wi-Fi info, so I could not go back and force it to continue without a connection. Plus, all addresses I chose it just told me it's already used, try another.
I did that one before I wrote. It told me it was taken and expected another, so that no longer works. I'll try the other one mentioned here and report back.
Did you get this sorted? I know the following works on 11, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it worked on 10.
First unplug the Ethernet cable, and when it asks for WiFi, press “Shift + F10”. In the opened command prompt type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO”. This will make the installer go to the legacy OOBE (Out Of Box Experience).
Finish setup, before finally connecting to the internet. Don’t worry you’re not doing anything dangerous. It’s a simple registry edit.
Windows is Microsoft's operating system, and unlike Android, there are fully featured Linux alternatives for all hardware. Why do you need to use Windows, specifically? - noting that needing to use Windows specific software should not be the reason, as WINE exists. You clearly don't have a specific affiliation to Microsoft, either, as you don't want to have an account with them. What's tying you to Windows?
Agreed. This is why I took the time to get comfortable with vscode. Still, in real world business development sometes it takes visual studio, and that is an excellent example.
There are times when I do need windows. That is why I kept the default install on my laptop and put Linux on dual boot.
In this case, my son wants to play bedrock Minecraft, and eventually I'm sure he will want to play games that don't work on Linux.
For recent examples of why I need to have it around just in case, I'm interviewing for jobs and 90% of them use Teams. It took me a few weeks to get a solution to work on Linux.
Everyone here should check out Windows X-lite. No accounts required, disabled telemetry, deleted bloatware, options to delete defender and edge before install. You gotta even install .net and c++ redistributables your self. It feels like being on Windows XP again.
Windows 10 dont connect to wifi or ethernet and it should let you through. I think from what i have heard windows 11 just tells you to fuck off and come back when you have some internet to create the ms account
You can still enter audit mode and change some registry settings to switch to a local account. Last time I did an 11 install on a device with Wi-Fi it also let me create a local account after trying to continue with a blank password a few times.
From what I'm seeing you should be able to bypass it just by keeping it offline. I know with 11 once it made me try to login then basically said screw it make a local instead when I had the laptop on airplane mode
Go through the account login, put a@a.com for user and something random for the pass. It should try to do something and then say something like Account disabled blah blah create a local account