Over 250 people quarantined in South Carolina as measles outbreak rages
Over 250 people quarantined in South Carolina as measles outbreak rages
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Over 250 people quarantined in South Carolina as measles outbreak rages
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Fall of Rome shit
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Measles scares the crap out of me. Not only can you die or get serious complications from the initial infection but there's this super scary disease you can get years later when the virus reawakens. The disease is called Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis (SSPE) and it has a 95% fatality rate. 95! That's extremely scary and only makes me more relieved I've been vaccinated. The fact it's entirely preventable yet is making the rounds again in the US due to a corrupt and inherently stupid excuse of an administration is infuriating
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It also causes Immune Amnesia . It causes your immune system to forget how to fight diseases it has already fought off. The condition can last for years after you have measles.
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We need some kind of vaccine to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen to people. Maybe we could combine it with a mumps and rubella inoculation?
I mean, it won't bother me. I'm already neurodiverse. So, vaccines only make me stronger.
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I got you fam. My ADHD ass (and all for of my kids) are totally immune to that shit, but absolutely ROCKING the ADHD
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A completely preventable disease, and here we are.
All because we have so many stupid people in this country...if Democrats ever get a decent majority, I hope they bring back vaccination requirements with a vengeance, and for public schools and working in hospitals and things like the military and so on, close the loopholes for people that have "religious" objections to basic science and medicine.
Don't like it? Too bad. Citizenship also comes with responsibilities.
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The 1st Amendment means we don't recognize religion in government policy, so if the religious freaks don't want to follow the law, they can pack back up into the Mayflower, and find another landmass to live. May I suggest Antarctica.
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I dont really know what the solution is.
The harder you mandate it, the more people will get nutty about it.
I do feel that anti-vax nutters are internalising the benefits of vaccinations (by benefiting from herd immunity) but externalising the risks (by enjoying healthcare when they get sick).
In Australia unvaccinated kids dont get government support for things like day care or parenting payments et cetera.
I employed a young woman who was earning $700 a week buy paying $500 a week for day care because they refused to vaccinated her. They were living on the husband's salary. It seemed pretty bleak to me.
Like in Australia you need to save every dollar to buy a house or retire. Sure you can have a few baubles but no one can afford $25k a year for this kind of idiocy.
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I dont really know what the solution is.
One I can think of is that we need to start penalizing people legally, societally, or both for spreading lies and misinformation again.
There's no downside and lots of upside to just firehosing everyone with bullshit nowadays.
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The harder you mandate it, the more people will get nutty about it.
I don't know that for sure. We had decades of norms long before this shit started in the 90s. Those norms resulted in most people not really even questioning it. Sure, you always had a few on the fringes like the Amish and Mennonites, but they also have minimum contact with the public anyway...
I think the craziness probably resulted from -
- Primarily - vaccines being a victim of their own success, ironically, along with the way the culture pushes aside older people and the wisdom they may have. People don't see these diseases and their effects and assume, incorrectly, that they don't need to vaccinate. Older generations that did see this and were/are still around are largely ignored by some of the younger generations, probably mostly really getting going with younger Gen Xers, and getting progressively worse with younger and younger generations. It's all too natural for every generation to think they are uniquely different than everything that came before, most especially when they are young. Even in the 20th century, marketing and advertising has always made this narcissistic tendency of the young worse than it already is, but now with the atomization of everything and narrowcasting of so much content, this has been weaponized to an extent never seen before. The more ignorant and younger populations get anecdotes from others about how they didn't vaccinate and didn't get sick and instead of knowing that is because of everyone else doing their work for them (herd immunity), they think it's because they are not really needed. I remember my grandmother (Greatest generation) and mother (boomer) both getting quite annoyed when they started to see this phenomenon in the 90s. They were both nurses, and this royally pissed them off, and rightfully so, because this kind of ignorance among the young is dangerous. But again, the culture, now more than ever, worships the young. Old people are to be ignored and mocked, never learned from. Saying old people are just "stuck in their ways" is used to dismiss any wisdom that might be passed on. So here we are...my mother and grandmother are both now gone, and I guess one blessing about that is that they don't have to watch this clusterfuck unfold.
- I think the 'net is partly to blame. People with like interests can find each other and start really maximizing those interests, which includes nutty conspiracy theories and anti-intellectualism. It's not like it's all high-minded scientists and intellectuals are the only ones finding each other...the nutbars find each other and probably work to push each other's Overton window to even further extremes.
- The phenomenon of more people being diagnosed as on the spectrum. People wanted something to blame. Even if the more obvious answer might be that screening has changed over time, at least some people felt that vaccines were the real reason...
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Five years ago, I felt like ultra-liberal Portland Oregon was awfully vaccine hesitant. I believe it may have shifted as a reaction to Trump 2.0 and Covid, but a lot of what I think of as anti-science still exists. But at least democrats don’t put RFK in charge of vaccines.
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I definitely do see pockets of this among liberals in my anecdotal experience, going back to the 90s. Prior to that, other than Amish and Mennonites, I never really heard of people being anti-vaxx.
One thing I did notice is that older liberals (boomer age) would openly mock the younger liberals that were doing the "I'm not vaccinating my kids" thing. I think that is because some of them may have seen or heard things and it stuck. A lived experience/wisdom kind of thing. If you were old enough to see or hear about the situation before vaccines, you were old enough to know better and that younger people were just being morons. Listening to a centerfold when it comes to autism and vaccines instead of, you know, actual experts.
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It used to be patriotic to be vaccinated
Which really emphasizes how these are actual traitors
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Have the day you didn’t vaccinate for.
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Alright, cool. Now lets take a tally of anti-vaxxers among the infected.
How's THAT working for ya? Oh, me? I'm fine. I'm sitting over here in public, without measles. You know, on account of how I'm not an idiot?
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Herd immunity isn’t for those who won’t get vaccinated, it’s for those who can’t.
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Of the 111 outbreak cases, 105 were unvaccinated, three were partially vaccinated, two had an unknown status, and one case was fully vaccinated
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Nek minute..polio?
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What’s the over/under on Polio for 2026?
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You jest, but RFK Jnr launched a court case to outlaw the polio vaccine.
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It’ll certainly win the republican primary.
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Why do the CRAZY dems not want us to HAVE our very own big beautiful IRON LUNGS? MANY people are SAYING that iron is the BEST element. Who doesn't want LUNGS made of iron?
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Invest now in Tesla Lungs.
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Thanks Biden.
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😂
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I'm not afraid of measles because I have an immune system!
That I boosted by getting the fucking MMR shot!
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Quarantine is so much easier than a vaccination. /s