Gavin Newsom opposes California ‘billionaire tax’ as he eyes 2028 White House bid
Gavin Newsom opposes California ‘billionaire tax’ as he eyes 2028 White House bid
Ladies and gentelmen, California Bush
And so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the "centrist", only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.
Well, then, fuck him.
Is anyone really surprised? He's just a neoliberal that's had a lot of good press this year.
On the side of the billionaires and the zionists. He'll be the next president for sure.
And don't forget he is also throwing trans people under the bus to.
just having lived in california is enough for a lot of states to vote against you
I got a fiver that says he has to try to walk this back when he runs “the most progressive campaign in us history” in 2028.
I mean, how lucky are we? Hillary, Biden, Kamala, all with “the most progressive platform” ever!
And before that, Obama, Kerry, and if I remember right even fucking Gore were all accused of being the most radical left Presidential candidates in American history.
Funny how the Democratic Party keeps running more and more progressive candidates - both the Republicans and Democrats say they're doing it, so it must be true - and yet the Democratic Party keeps moving more and more to the right.
oh yeah, totally feeling lucky, think I'll go buy a lottery ticket.
edit: I lost.
What's "progressive" about ignoring 999,999,999 dollars? Focusing on an arbitrary number isn't smart.
This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
His sales pitch is centered around "I'm not a Republicantm!"
Most people on this planet don't lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.
On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it's between him and <insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I'll vote for him.
However, I'd imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of "friend" of the poor and the middle class.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.
A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn't be voting for him, I'd be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.
He's also pro-genocide.
Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
Same reason they voted for Hillary and Joe.
They don't want things to change.
At this point in time I'm pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?
At some point the left needs to realize that sitting out voting doesn’t work. Yes the candidate sucks from your political stance but they are better than the alternative and it gives a platform from which to push left. This has been the playbook of the right for decades and is why they have been so successful in shifting the Overton window. They vote in any circumstance even if the candidate isn’t as right leaning as they would prefer but to them at least it’s not a dem.
Edit: to be clear I’m all for taxing billionaires and corporations far more.
We still have ample time to get someone better than Gavin.
Your vote is your voice. A vote is earned not expected.
As a permanent resident who cannot vote but pays 6 figures in taxes. VOTE. Some of us aren’t so lucky
Every vote is a push in one direction or the other in the US. You can vote to push right, you can vote to push left, or you can avoid voting and let the rest of us decide for you. But the last time a bunch of leftists weren't thrilled with the options, the electorate voted to push right. From your valid gripes against Newsom, I'm gonna guess that was not what you wanted.
Come election day, one of the two candidates is guaranteed to become president. You cannot stop that. I won't try to say Newsom is ideal or even a good candidate. I'd love to see someone else run instead. But if you want an even more leftist candidate next time, the country has to show they'll tolerate movement in that direction, and that means not electing another fucking Republican.
Every action is a vote for something. It never hurts to consider the consequences.
By all means push forward a better candidate than Newsom. And I hope you succeed. But if you don't, and it turns out that in the end it's going to be either Newsom or Vance (or even Trump), then who would you rather have?
It's not the left who sits out, it's less politically engaged people. Bought out "Centrist" candidates fail to motivate turnout while getting negligible Republican voters to switch. Progressive candidates do better at both. They're safer bets. Left wingers try and explain this and get blamed
Why can't voters just vote for candidates that actually care about the working class?
Why do we have to play this "fall in line" nonsense so rich people can be even richer?
Why are we so stupid and proud of it?
"This candidate is not perfect enough for me, a paragon of virtue, and he's worse than having a right wing dictatorship under trump" is what I am hearing from a lot of people and boy do it smell like bitch in here.
Liberals gonna liberal.
I'd still rather have a capitalist than a fascist.
Scratch a capitalist and you'll find a fascist. But yeah gun to my head, I'll take it. Figuratively speaking, at least for now.
Bang on.
But milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.
I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani's momentum continues.
Yeah that's the thing about capitalists: They come as a package with fascists.
FINALLY. Someone thinking about the billionaires.
Can we stop being stupid?
This doesn't mean he thinks billionaires shouldn't pay more taxes. It means it's childish and stupid to focus on a single number when it comes to actual policy.
Here’s a policy suggestion. Remove citizens united.
Most of the political issues I’m dealing with stem from wealth inequality. That makes me a single issue voter. Perhaps that is childish.
You know what stupid not seeing this for what it is. Pandering to billionaires for campaign contributions. Thus the citizens unit comment. I just wanted to get in there and really spell it out for you because you seem a bit dim.
I’d argue. It’s pretty fucking stupid if you can’t wrap your head around how the destruction of the middle class in America and the consolidation of wealth in the hands of 10,000 or so people has been a fucking tragedy for our political system. Hell it’s been a tragedy for our countries basic cohesion. I don’t really think you need to be labeling things as stupid. You didn’t even come up with a real rebuttal. This reply was moronic and there’s really nothing else I can go on so: fuck you have a great day.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.
The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years.
So there are two possible interpretations for why the Democrats are so stubbornly useless:
Either way there's no "realizing" anything.
Slimey as fuck I hate that guy
The only reason Newsom has had any interest from the broader electorate is that he was outspoken in opposing Trump. The minute he enters the primary and starts spouting the same valueless, donor-approved, corporate drivel as Kamala, Jefferies, Schumer, etc., he's going to flame out fast.
If this is the Democratic candidate, and there is no adequate progressive 3rd party candidate, 2028 will be the first election I sit out since 2000.
I am DONE accepting milquetoast corporate right wing democrats just because they aren’t literally insane. John Kerry was my first, and Kamala Harris is my last. I swear to fucking god.
I feel that.
And Newsom is different from Trump, how exactly? Dude hosted Charlie Kirk and Steve Banon on his podcast, that he wasn't required to do, and didn't question them, just nodded along like Joe Rogan.
Newsom is shaping up to be a DNC approved Trump at this rate. Loves Nazis, hates taxes, claims to love the real America, hated COVID protections being applied, doesn't care about brown people... Fucker needs to lose in the primary quickly. Assuming we get a fair one.
I mean c’mon, let’s not get too carried away, next thing ya know they’ll be wanting to tax the billionaires or something.
This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.
Yuck.
"b... b... bUt alL tHe BiLliOnAiReS wILl rUn aWAy. TRiCkLe DoWn eCoNoMiCs, sOmeThIng, SoMeThIng" - bootlicking cunt
Newsom has received campaign cash from billionaires such as Netflix co-founder Reed Hastings, philanthropist Laurene Powell Jobs, and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, among others.
Eric "we love capitalism" Schmidt?
Fuck you sleeze bag
I wouldn't vote for Gavin if he was the Democratic candidate. He is just as horrible as the other Democrats.
We need true change and true leaders that will change the government to work for the working class instead of the wealthy.
I wouldn’t vote for Gavin if he was the Democratic candidate. He is just as horrible as the other Democrats.
For fuck's sake, you people are so ridiculous. It's like you don't even care what Trump is doing to the country. Fuck any "progressive" who helped bring him back to power.
AOC is over 35...
And voted to continue funding Israel. And Sanders voted for "Biden's crime bill".
I voted for him twice, but that was a solid dick move. Right now, I'm liking Mark Kelly's chances though I'd rather have someone more forward thinking.
And sorry folks. AOC just hasn't got the experience yet. Senate seat or a Cabinet position first.
Good, it's stupid to focus on an arbitrary number like that. We need real policy, not buzzwords. There should be a progressive income tax without loopholes or avoidance.
If Newsom wins the primary, I'm out. I'd rather fight fascism on the streets than play this stupid ass good cop, bad cop game for another round. Fuck you, Democrats. Learn.
Bernie Would've Won
Yes, but he also would have supported the genocide same as the centrists. Otherwise I love the guy.
They've been doing this game for a while. (They, being establishment politics, Dems and Republicans working together)
They push the needle further right, put up less and less progressive, human candidates, and hope more and more people either tune out of politics or say "I'm out."
The unwillingness for people to wait out the hard shit as long as it's pushing the needle back the left has brought us to the point that we have to choose between demons and ghouls. We could have nipped this back when we were forced to choose between "boring and not-quite-progressive-enough" but there were vast numbers of people saying "I'm out" that far back, and I know for a fact most of ya'll would love one of them "boring" presidents if it means we have institutions back.
Gonna have to change that stance if he wants to run on the Dem ticket in the year of our lord 2028.
Cuz everyone gonna be REAL fucking mad at billionaires by then if things keep going the way they are.
The Dems rigged the election against Bernie to protect billionaires, then had a court declare that they were legally within their right to rig it. What makes you think they care how angry the average person is at their owners?
Hot take: he isn’t good but would have been better than Biden during that debate
I don't think that that's a hot take. If we're listing people who would've done better than Biden in that debate, just about every living person and perhaps a few dead ones could've gotten over that absurdly low bar.
We need everybody to fucking vote in the primary so we can put somebody better on the ballot for the general election. I don't want to be forced to choose between newsom and vance or desantis or noeme or whoever they run. I'm glad he's willing to get dirty in his fighting back, but he still just sucks so much.
I don't think, for as long as I live, I will ever stop being mad at whoever let Biden on stage in that condition.
Another reason to not vote for Newsom. He may be younger than Pelosi and the other Geronocrats, but he is still corrupt as hell.
Billionaire tax should be 99%, no breaks or deductions. Boom I said it.
Even double digit millionaires shouldn't exist.