Bazzite is the new Arch

Guy came into my workplace this week and I was saying I was slowly getting into developing a game engine with SDL. When he heard I was using ubuntu he recommended Bazzite, saying he has no trouble with it and uses his machine mostly for gaming. Is it Debian based or something else? At least it's not that meme distro Arch I guess, might try it

It's Fedora based. If you want to develop on it, it supports containerized workflows. There's a DX version explicitly designed for developers.

I don't use Linux yet but when I do change it will be Bazzite btw. (I have an Nvidia graphics card and from the little research I did, Bazzite seems to be a good distro for Linux gaming)

I use Bazzite btw and I am yet to encounter a game that it won't run.

Rightfully so!

(I use Bazzite btw)

It's honestly so easy to get into and works, I'm honestly surprised it isn't suggested more!
(I use bazzite btw)

I use Windows BTW.

For work. They force me to 😭
Please send help!

Just leave a penguin's head in your boss' bed
/joke
- I love penguins. Can't I just put a broken window in there?
It could be worse. You could be stuck with legacy or embedded windows shudders
- The worst thing is it is legacy, but it's legacy Java. Why on earth am I developing with Windows?

Imagine not using Hannah Montana Linux. I literally can't do it. Why would you use anything else when all the other distros are so inferior?

Imagine using Linux when you can use TempleOS.
- Holy C is too much, I am not worthy
- I tried that once, my computer caught fire then told me to kill my son,
  I don't even have a son
  think I'll just stick to linux

The user base for other universal-blue distros like Aurora is way smaller so it's actually special. I use Aurora btw.

Aurora on my work machine, Bazzite on my home machine haha
It's on my Framework 13. 😌

You are late. They moved on to CachyOS. Give it a few months and it will be a new one again.

I did move on to CachyOS lmao.
but in my defense, it's because the CachyOS people in matrix wouldn't shut up about how good it was.
- In which ways is it better? right now I'm defaulting to bazzite for my desktop as I already got a steam deck.
Dammit I really did just recommend CachyOS to someone, although I also like OpenSUSE!
- openSUSE Tumbleweed made me love my computer again. It also games like I'm not even missing anything from Windoze. NVIDIA GPU and everything. I'm sure there are "better" distros, but openSUSE was the one that got me to stay, and I couldn't be happier!

I use TempleOS btw.

Gaming like God intended
The developer died in 2018 BTW
- That’s ok. TempleOS is not just an operating system. It’s a spiritual experience. Also, it’s not like he would have made it useful if he kept working on it.
Excuse me, this is a Linux community, I'm afraid you're going to have to leave.
/joke

I feel called out, "I use Bazzite btw" is literally a joke I made irl last week.

Some Bazzite users touch grass and talk to people IRL, surprising, I know.

I use openSUSE btw.

There are dozens of us. Dozens!
- I'm on Aeon. Does that count?
I ~~use~~ am compiling Gentoo BTW
Same here, for over a year! Made me love Linux, and computing again! Even games like I'm not missing anything from Windoze, and that's all I really needed! :)

Don't know what's all the fuss about (I use mint btw)

Did you test it?
- No, haven't tested bazzite. I'm sure it's great as I've heard good things about it. My comment was just a joke comment since we are in a meme community (but I do actually use mint, btw)

I use Fedora which js Bazzite with different preinstalled bloat

Can easily make your own Bazzite FROM Silverblue.

Can you dual boot it yet with other linuxes? I want to split gaming and productivity.

You can, if you know how to configure grub.
- Yeah you need to tell grub-mkconfig in /etc/default/grub to run the os-prober on everything during updates and put it in the cfg, but bazzite is immutable and seems to be only configured for parallel windows and it's own version history. If i read the docs correctly, screenshot in other comment.
Is Bazzite better for gaming? What are you running currently?
- Its not better per se compared to other Linuxes for gaming, just pre-configured to take a lot of the basic setup work out of it for you.
- I tried it out and challenged myself not to touch the terminal to fix anything for as long as I could, to see if it is a truly ready-out-of-the-box experience.
  It is actually very intuitive for gaming, what makes it feel more suited than most distros for me is that flatpak apps that you don't have installed show up in the start menu, ready to add if you need them. Other OSs are leaner and cleaner but you'd have to know the package name.
  I managed to get everything started, games and stuff including minor tweaks, and the first time I needed to use the terminal was to work out how to get some fan control working. I didn't succeed in setting it up. So I took away from that experience that low level hardware OS tasks are harder to access in Bazzite.
I think you've always been able to?
- I could only find the ugly bios option, normally the os-prober of grub-mkconfig would be configurable to take care of it, but we are immutable there. I assume this is also valid for debian or arch:
Why not just get one distro that does both?
- I'm more productive if I have to reboot between work and leisure.

Thats great!

I actually don't see the benefit of Bazzite, its supposed to be gaming. But I didn't really ran into much problems using Bottles under Fedora either (which feels much less bloated), but maybe i was just lucky. I play mostly indie games from itch.

I also use Bottles with ProtonPlus on NixOS. Bazzite has better integration for crazy stuff too, and a lot is running with full privileges unlike Flatpak.
Just look at their features, they really add a ton. The goal is to become less and less ofc, but Steam will stay proprietary so that will always be a huge change to regular (or atomic) Fedora.
https://bazzite.gg/
https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite?tab=readme-ov-file#about--features

So yeah it is bloated and less secure too, but "just works"
I like bootc and compiling my own images exactly how I want them :3 Though, this isn't bazzite specific
https://github.com/ublue-os/image-template
- Did you just pull a “i use bootc, btw” on me?!

I use Nobara, btw.

Finally some representation.

Agreed! Skim my post history. I’m in the meme.

And it’s because I’m so happy I have a plug n play version of Linux that I don’t have to troubleshoot. It’s more stable than W11 on my work computer. I love it so much. I could throw it on my grandmas computer and she would be fine. I’d recommend it over Mint for new Linux users.

I wouldn’t recommend it for people who love using the command line or run virtual machines.

Well. Shit. Now I've got no excuses.

I use CachyOS BeeTeeDubs...

I truly believe Nobara to be better suited for gaming than Bazzite. I don't really get the hype. But then again, to each his own distro.

Bazzite is like a easy newbie introduction to Linux. It's really hard to mess up Bazzite, like really hard. In the same regard it can also be a pain to install anything outside of their ecosystem. If you run it with Distrobox it's not a big deal but I don't see a lot of new users going that route. If you're just looking to browse, stream, and game than Bazzite is perfect and you don't need anything else. Beyond that? Distrobox or use a different distro.
I tried Bazzite, I didn't like it, I found it too limiting but I do see the appeal of it.
- I'm on Bazzite after giving the other ublue flavours a try. It took a couple of weeks to get comfortable with the new philosophy, but now I can't see myself going back. What felt like limitations at first, now feels like good habits. All my dev work is done in containers, so it just makes sense.
Nobara didn't used to have a Steam Deck image. Bazzite was one of the first distros, if not the first to have one. that's why Bazzite is more popular. there was a huge surge of people on r/SteamDeck who switched to Bazzite, and that popularity moved on to other handhelds like the ASUS ones.

No, that's Garuda.

Also gaming focused, also super easy, not so locked down it won't let you change your login background, also has great Nvidia support. Arch.

B-b-but NixOS!

No issues gaming on Mint! Tried bazzite couldn't get into it. Just doesn't feel usable daily and to game. Mint is just too polished and convenient.

But have you read The Good Book (Dolstra et al, 2004)?

I don’t use Bazzite, but I do recommend it for new Linux users.

Why?
Not judging or anything. Just curious why it's your go-to. Mine's either "Ubuntu" or "try several live distros, see what you like the feel of before installing one".
- I would never recommend Ubuntu to anyone. Canonical cannot be trusted and Snaps are a plague on Linux. They care more about their own control than the needs of users.
  But why Bazzite?
  Being atomic makes it hard to break.
  KDE Plasma is familiar to Windows users, and familiarity is important when making the jump.
  It installs fast and, being based on Fedora, has excellent hardware support with no fuss.
  It comes with gaming software preinstalled and ready-to-go.
  It’s Flatpak-native, so finding, installing, and maintining software is safe and easy.
  It lets new users get back to their lives without having to learn much of anything. If users get more advanced and need to go non-atomic, I recommend graduating to Fedora KDE. It stays familiar but gives more control.
  From there, a Linux pilgrim has all the tools and experience they need to make their Linux journey their own.
Generally I think immutable distros are the best entry-level distros for newcomers. Stops people from accidentally bricking their system.

... I use Bazzite btw

It is nice to see someone using the "Nobody:" meme format correctly.

Pft. I compile Gentoo for my GameCube, btw

I'm glad all of you are using various Linux distros and I'm glad there is so much choice within this community. Keep it up!

Honestly I'd welcome this, the Linux podcasts I listen to are still going on and on about nix. At least it would be something different.

I'm considering Bazzite for a Win 10 machine that I only use to play Steam games. Really hoping that it "just works" for most of my library.

Could I consider any game that is Steam Deck Verified will work fine? Am I likely to run into a ton of issues? I game exclusively with a wireless XBone controller.

Steam Deck Verified games should be fine, and a lot of non-Verified games were only downgraded to "Playable" because of issues that may not matter on a desktop, like small text (what's small on a Steam Deck screen may not be small on a monitor) or needing to manually trigger the on-screen keyboard (a desktop is usually accompanied by a physical keyboard).
idk, but I use Ubuntu and pretty much everything on Steam works for me. I've only ever come across three games I wanted to and couldn't play, two of them are Epic gacha trash, and the other one's Skyrim with dll mods (non-dll mods work fine).
I'm clueless about Linux, so I tried it. It seems to be just working for me for most of my Steam library, at least with Proton Experimental. I don't have a XBone controller, but my SteelSeries knockoff does fine. That said, I have no idea what might cause it to break. (Though, it doesn't seem to like my mechanical hard drives much.)
(I use bazzite, btw ;) )
I think the controller is the least compatible thing there.
(I use bazzite, btw ;) )
- Is there a different controller that works better for you?
- I do have a Steam controller which would probably be a suitable replacement.

There are just so many good distros available these days. Doesn't stop me from using bazzite, though.

Everyone loves Bazzite, and they're probably all right, but it did not run very well on my old gaming laptop.
Since people often mention Linux (in general) as being a good OS for older hardware, I thought this anecdote might be a helpful perspective to some.
I tried two or three other distros on that laptop, and they all ran fine as expected. I assume Bazzite has some higher system requirements to power its cool features.

What would you recommend for a gaming machine with some pretty old hardware (1080Ti etc), PopOS or Bazzite? I mainline Mint, but I have this hardware coming in and I'd like to get an idea of what I want to do with it before it gets here.

I'm on a 1080TI and Mint works like a charm.
Personally I'd pick Xubuntu but that's just me. Try a few different live distros and see what clicks?
Garuda xfce maybe
Bazzite didn't run well on a 1660 super DDR3 machine I tried recently.
And by didn't run well I mean it didn't start.

I use Kinoite btw. I thought the idea of an immutable file system was neat but didn't want to go all-in on just gaming. Even though my gaming experience on Kinoite has been nearly flawless.