Kash Patel fires FBI agent trainee for displaying gay pride flag
Kash Patel fires FBI agent trainee for displaying gay pride flag
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Kash Patel fires FBI agent trainee for displaying gay pride flag
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"Land of the free" my ass. It is a "Land of the morons", they had freedom, now they don't which is modern definition of moron.
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Are we the baddies?
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Always have been
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Yep
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only nazi symbolism alllwed
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what I find amusing is doesn't this Patel guy not realize that once he's fulfilled his use to this regime he'll be lined up against the wall with everyone else that isn't white? or is he banking on the fact he'll be labelled as "one of the good ones"
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Anything to hurt innocent people and make them feel less than human.
It must be difficult to be so stupid and live day to day like that. I can only imagine the stress Kash gets when the stoplight turns yellow and it doesn't know if he needs to shoot it, stop it, or fire the people who made it turn yellow.
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The trainee, who previously worked as an FBI support specialist in Los Angeles, received a letter — dated Oct. 1 and signed by Patel — claiming he had displayed an improper “political” message in the workplace during his assignment in California under President Joe Biden, according to a copy of the letter shared with MSNBC.
I'm not sure you've quite grasped the concept of linear time....
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Yeah doesn’t he know you’re supposed to be an anti gay activist and then spend all of your free time secretly on Grindr?
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Doesn't brown boi realize he is next?
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In the presence of hierarchy, there will always be those in the underclasses who will betray anyone to secure their place as "first of the least". It is why white women vote republican in such large numbers. It is why so many among the working class clamor to defend billionaires. 'Notice me, senpai' as ideology.
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Idk ask Thomas Clarance or whatever his name is.
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Close. Clarence Thomas.
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Someone should tap Kboi on the forehead with some vigorous detail. Perhaps that may undo the crosseyed glare.
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Political messages ugh. Make them all go away
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It’s always wild seeing blatant transphobia from the LGB bubble. It’s a very real phenomenon, where trans people don’t even have safe spaces among LGB spaces. Like trans people are seen as icky by many LGB folks, purely due to the fact that they take meds. Those gay guys will gladly go to a drag show and get wasted while #slay’ing, but will be blatantly transphobic if they meet an actual transwoman in the same space. The dissonance is fascinating.
But also, I don’t think this user is LGB… They used “they” instead of “we” to describe LGB folks, which means they’re likely just an outsider trying to stoke division. Either way, user tags exist for a reason; I’m tagging this user as a blatant transphobe and likely shit-stirrer.
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This is like the "Immigrants being racist to newer immigrants" mentality but within the LGBTQ community.
It'd comical if it wasn't so disappointingly sad.
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Just putting this out there, but I use "they" about queer people or trans people all the time so as to try to keep the discussion from breaking down to personal projections and focused on the logic. I find it obfuscates myself as a target.
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Oh look, a TERF in the wild.
Get the fuck out, shitheel.
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The gay pride flag was displayed during his assignment in California under President Joe Biden? That is completely ridiculous. Thought crime is one thing, but retroactive thought crime is delusion.
Thought crimes are very often retroactive.
During Soviet times figures drifted in and out of favour. An old joke:
Three men are sitting in a jail cell. "How did you end up here?" asks one the other. "I criticized Karl Radek," he says. "No way!" replies the first man. "I got here for supporting Karl Radek!"
They turn over to the third guy in the corner and ask him why he got there. He sighs heavily and answers: "I'm Karl Radek."
Well, I mean, the moment you start thinking of the United States of America as being like the good ole' Soviet Union, you know something is wrong.
Have you seen Kash Patel pictures, does that look like a sane and not-on cocaine person to you
Freedom of speech‽ The goddamn FBI isn't a private entity
There are no rights beyond what the administration allows. If they choose to remove your fredom of speech, who's going to stop them? SCOTUS?
Man I hate to look like I'm siding with Patel here...but "Congress shall make no law". Not a second amendment issue, because Patel isn't making a law or sitting in Congress.
But, federal jobs usually aren't at-will and usually protected against wrongful termination by civil service laws.
But, while he could fight it, the courts aren't exactly in his favor right now.
I completely agree with you on this case. Especially since it was allowed at the time by that administration and if they aren’t showing it now because of this administration then why are we doing this except to purge Democrat.
Now, here’s the part where I get downvoted because people won’t want to acknowledge this:
You said retroactive thought crime is a big no no, but many cancellations of recent past (last 5-7 years at least) have been what you would label “retroactive thought crimes”. When someone pulls Twitter posts or quotes of people from their past and use it as justification for cancelling them then that is exactly what a retroactive thought crime is.
One of two things may be true here. First, they still believe what they said and thus we should hold them accountable for not growing and hurting others. Second, they said that stuff and forgot about it but have changed their opinion and truly regret it. They should be given a chance to explain their position either way. Chances are we can tell if they’re sincere based on how they’ve been acting or talking over time.
If I’m being honest, I am guilty of judging others for their past without further finding out if they have actually changed or not. I fully own that.
My dude, there's a monumental difference between the "retroactive thought crime" committed by someone who gets cancelled over a past instance of being racist, homophobic, transphobic, a sexual abuser, or whatever other heinous/bigoted act, and the "retroactive thought crime" committed by someone who puts a pride flag on their desk.
Canceling is usually performed against someone that offers their product by the people that the product is offered to. If I can spend my money on anything I want, and performer X says that I am a loser, I am not going to give performer X my money. I can choose things that X said 20 years ago, and I can choose stupid and invalid things to not give them my money. I think that's understood: It is X's responsibility to make sure that I want to give them my money, neither mine nor the government's.
You give a good example in a different comment of a company (Disney) firing someone (James Gunn) because they were concerned about fallout from cancellation. That part is iffy, as we have seen with the Kimmel fiasco. Corporations have a hard time figuring out what is okay and what isn't. The Coors Light debacle shows that even the best intentions can spectacularly backfire.
What we have here is the FBI, the Federal Law Enforcement agency, targeting an employee for perfectly legal conduct that was considered perfectly normal under the circumstances. People can and do judge, corporations can judge, but it's risky. The Federal government is barred by the First Amendment from infringing on free speech. That includes the speech of its own employees.
The person fired seems to have been in their probationary period, and that might hold up in court. It's still a shocking example of government persecution of retroactive thought crime.
I am surprised they are so blatant about this, because of course the same logic applies in reverse, too - in the future, should Democrats return to government, anyone could get fired for being a member of Truth Social, or having posted something pro-Trump on Facebook. Which just shows you that this Administration doesn't consider it possible that they'll ever have to leave office.
When that's what's happening in the literal government maybe that will be relevant, but this is ridiculous 'both sides' nonsense. Oh no, people don't want to work with some celebrity anymore because they got accused of something bigoted, this is just like the government firing personnel because they displayed a Pride flag in California years ago! As long as you ignore all the surrounding context, they're exactly the same!
Gonna need some examples because every time I've seen this sort of thing it generally turns out to be not true and not backed by examples. "Canceling" in most cases is someone saying something incredibly shitty then being shocked that the group that they said it about gets annoyed with them on the internet. This rarely has real world repercussions for that person and in the rare times it does it's because they recently said something super racists/sexist/awful and the backlash from said group is significant enough that companies distance themselves from that person. These are almost exclusively public figures that it happens to and rarely, if ever, non-public figures.
The only time I've seen actual "canceling" happen to regular ass people is from the recent Charlie Kirk shit. If you can cite examples that would be stupendous. Otherwise I'm going to assume you're kind of full of shit.