US Discourse Rule

~~I HOPE YOU DIE~~ I AM GOING TO KEEP POINTING AT YOU UNTIL SOMEONE FROM MY TRIBE SHOOTS YOU

I hope that by calling you an extremist threat, someone will do something about you!

.... bUT hE Is JuST dEBatiNG a PoiNT wIth wOrDs!

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to shut the fuck up."

Democracy, as in the idea that political power can only come from the people and only equally, is just not popular anymore and its kinda tragic. As an anti-authoritarian this is the hill I will die on, but it doesn't have as many people as I'd like. it's a cool-ass hill.

Well, we've never had direct democracy in the U.S. The People didn't even vote for Senators for quite a while, and we still don't vote for President, much less all the legislation and regulation done at various levels of government.
That said, I don't really believe in unrestricted democracy anymore. I think the best solve for the "paradox of tolerance" is for intolerant persons to be prohibited from wielding political power, including the vote. I think the anarchist solve is non-binding democracy: a democratic decision, no matter how overwhelming, can't reduce the freedom on the minority (and even the people that voted for it aren't bound to it either, they voluntarily comply as long [or short] as they care to).
- Iirc the solution to the 'paradox of tolerance' is to frame tolerance as a social contract, if you break the contract you are no longer protected by it.
- Love the anarchist approach, not so much the other one. IMHO intolerant speech should be punished by social ostracizing, not legal consequences. I just won't trust any government with the power of censorship.
- happy cake day!

gee whiz can't we find a moderate middle ground between these two extremist radical viewpoints?

I believe all humans are created equal and our political systems should reflect that, and anyone who doesn't believe that should die?
- I believe all humans are created equal and thus I hate them all and hope they all die?
- Not that I would agree, but it’s a solution for the paradox of tolerance…
- Believe or die? Please tell me this is satire.
We do. It's something like "I agree with equal rights in principle, but meaningful measures to implement it would be difficult and expensive and would really piss off the billionaires who pay for our campaigns, so the best we can do is lip service and some rainbow emojis in June. Be sure to donate and vote for us like your life depends on it, because at least we're not actively trying to kill you. 🏳️‍🌈🐴"
- In short;
  "equal rights except i'm dependent on cretin billionnaires and so i don't do shit".
All men are created equal, but some men are more equal than others?

I had an Aunt, reserved woman, but honest. She was the first woman born in the entire family to be born with the right to vote. She managed to chisel herself a career in civil service for her entire adult life, never married, through all the rather distasteful attitudes she'd deal with on a daily basis.

Even she kept a copy of the constitution in her purse, a document that forbade her own mother from being able to vote well into adulthood.

Way I see it, our nation as such beautifully unceasing promise behind it, and they're damn afraid of that fact.

Even she kept a copy of the constitution in her purse, a document that forbade her own mother from being able to vote well into adulthood.
Well it never forbade her. It was left to the states to decide who got to vote. That was the fault of the constitution, it gave too much power to the states for federal affairs.

man you can't just post pictures of me and my parents that's not cool

Controversial point I guess but the people that actively want me and my people dead are maybe not so good… And if push comes to shove, blicky-blicky.

So you believe in a creator? Otherwise the way humans are created suggests that they are going to eat each other, like fish eating fish and mammals eating mammals. The vegans are on to something.

Every molecule and atom in our bodies initially came from nutrients consumed by our mother. Animals and plants that she consumed as sustenance. In that sense are we not all created equally, from the Earth?
Wouldn't... evolution imply mammals eating each other?
If nothing else the vegan approach is much closer to creationism, so they're not really onto anything.
- Yes. So if we want humans to respect each other we have to make a conscious decision to do that, similar to vegans who decide not to hurt animals.

That could still be (from) the same, compatible view, technically speaking.