i will kill you rule

God I fucking hate discord as a centralized place for anything open source. Seriously anything else. It's just such a bad place to dissiminate information.

"Join our Discord"
Ugh. Why. I don't want to hang out in your chatroom.

Discord has such a ridiculous, unfriendly layout, too; almost any other platform has a better UI...
- I think this is double sided
  Yes it is unfriendly but do you remember how it was pre discord? Communities built around vent and teamspeak?
  Discord is a step up from that but it needs to remain a community hub, not a full repository of information. "Visit our website" on the main page is necessary most of the time.
  Also discord has forum posts. These are awful and you can only have like 200 active posts or some rudimentary and small count which means you cant really use it as a forum (let alone the unintuitive layout of them)
- I've recently started using Discord more to play with friends and my god, the UI is so awful.
Even as someone that likes and uses Discord, I don't want to join their Discord. It's so much harder to find answers than just using a search engine, and if it's something I'm using for work, then I have to create a new account and everything

Why did this become a thing? Don’t they get sick of answering the same question every day?

The annoying thing is they won't allow you ask the fucking questions. They just remove your comment and say check the sticky.
I hate them
- Dumb kids that don't know any better, basically.
- Even better when it's inside of a voice channels chat rooms sticky. So it's hidden three fucking layers deep ina. Feature no one even realizes exists.
The "they" that make the decision not to invest in proper documentation are not the "they" who will have to answer the same question over and over... that's somebody else's problem.
But that's why forums exist. My guess is they just want to mine more data to sell.
- What extra data would they get from Discord over a forum?
  In my experience, it's usually smaller projects that do this. I'm guessing it's just easier/cheaper for them to throw it on discord than setup a proper forum/wiki, because that's the platform they're already familiar with
  #1 reason I hate it is the fact it's not globally searchable. That and the fact Discord search isn't great is probably why they're answering the same questions over and over

All knowledge that only exists on discord will be lost

Yup, having to join each server to access information means we (I presume) won't be able to archive it via ArchiveTeam Warrior.
Within minutes.
Is there no open alternative to it? Like old school forums but with a more modern ui and voice chats, and ideally indexed from the wider web. It could be an interesting addition to the fedi verse
- NodeBB is a modern forum that i believe is activitypub enabled unless i'm thinking of something else

I joined a discord of a very popular app recently. I do not know why devs like this in any way. If I was them I'd burn it down after the first day. The only thing in the discord is people posting the same few problems over and over and over. It so bad they not only have one bot but 3 that respond with it looks. Like your questing has been asked before please look here... With likes to people asking the same question but with no answer because its some AI trying to help. Even when you try to help someone and reply back with a correct answer you get spammed by these 3 bots. I had to block the 3 bots before I could do anything pertaining to conversation with someone. Why do we live like this...

A well documented FAQ on a forum would be so much more helpful than this discord garbage. I am someone who does read the fucking manual. But when your manual is a link to discord you deserve to be spamed with the same question 10000'ed times.

But that's not cool like AI running in a container in a flatpack in a VM on the cloud in a Docker giving you useless information!
- All I read was AI so I know it's good
  /s

My favorite is when you're interested in downloading a mod or fan game and the only place it exists is as a link to a google drive on discord.

Holy shit, learn how to use technology please.

I think it’s because if it’s on a site, it’s going to get taken down quick, especially if it’s even adjacent to Nintendo. Hosting rom hacks, fan games, etc on their own sites is stupid AF. It’s how all the other idiots keep getting in trouble.
Goes double for roms in general. Large torrents are 1000x better than rom sites.

me: you got instructions on how to do this?

google: best i can do is a 20 minute youtube video with no timestamps or a reddit post to a post answered with a deleted post take your pick

yeah we need more wikihow articles on everything

I just want an api documentation, please 😫

swagger is fine too if you don't got anything else. please anything but the discord docs

Do you have a website?

We have a Facebook.

Going through this right now, when a system update broke the game I was playing and the only support channel for my distro is Discord (so far, no one has replied to me on discord 🙁)

I wish more distros followed Arch's footsteps and built comprehensive Wikis
- Everyone told me that Arch was hard so I avoided it for years. They were wrong, the wiki makes Arch a lot easier than most other popular distros. It's so comprehensive! Bless those contributors. No wading through bulletin board archeology, decaying reddit threads, or half-relevant stack exchange questions.
Which distro?
- It's Nobara, a Fedora derivative. I've used it for probably 3 years now, with some brief hops to other distros in the middle, and it's always been great. Really it's just Fedora with gaming related stuff preinstalled to make it effortless.
  I actually made a post here, but I think I solved the controller problem and the game is still crashing (even without the controller connected, but the system no longer crashes) so maybe I should make a new post.
If this is the case, move important stuff to a physical backup and get out of that distro yesterday.

Unless it is something that I really need, and I can't find an alternative for, the phrase "join our discord for support and updates" is a sure sign that I will not, in fact, be using that product.

I agree with the point, but thats not how that meme format works.

"Can a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a… canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?"

"Can you?"

... [stunned expression]

Thats the original text, so this is really not the right format.

i should.... prolli watch irobot....
- Honestly you could make an argument against my previous comment saying that the clanker in the original saying "can you?" is just a dumb LLM repeating snarky reddit comments from its training data. Then the accurate reaction would really be "omg what a fucking dumb piece of trash". In the movie this robot was actually truly intelligent tho iirc. Been a long time since i watched it.
- Better to read the short story collection it's allegedly based on. Yet another case of a movie studio paying for the rights to something beloved so that they can slap the title on something generic and unrelated.
- it was my favorite movie when i was a kid!

I agree that Discord sucks for support, but in defense of companies and projects that use it (like my own), it’s free and it works.

It would be awesome to have some alternative, built on open source software, provided freely to all projects and companies, that a majority of users are willing to join, but that just doesn’t exist. Not at the scale that it’s going to see widespread adoption any time soon.

I will have a party the day it happens though, because even though I use Discord to provide support for two of my projects, I hate it. I’m just not willing to throw around more hosting resources and dedicate more time to run a support forum myself that 90% of my users wouldn’t be willing to sign up for anyway.

Maybe I'm a minority and if it works for you all the power to you. Though I would almost prefer a forum site. Bring back the old days of some forum hosted on a random website. Not some walled garden like Facebook or reddit or discord. I think bb board or something like that is still around or somewhere thing like it. Drop in forum templet for a web site. I don't think it would really be that much bandwidth to host something like that.
Anyway I miss the days of signing up for random forums on the internet.
Edit: https://www.phpbb.com/
aren't the usual project hosting/issue/bug trackers thingies like github and forgejo free?
- Yeah, and I use those too, but they’re not good for ad-hoc discussions.

This but also for Reddit.

love companies that have no support forum or email but instead ask you to go to the reddit community.

modding bethesda games be like

At least NexusMods has a forum though.

/s