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It gets tiring to write "Piefed/Lemmy/Mbin" to call our part of the Fediverse, is Threadiverse now the accepted term?

I used to say "Welcome to Lemmy" to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

You can't follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using "Fedivers" seems too generic

Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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I use Fediverse as threads is tied to meta
- When I hear threadiverse I think of Mastodon and Bluesky
- Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context
  
  Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the "Threadiverse". AFAIK it's not? The fact that I don't know is rather telling.
  
  To us maybe, as we already know what the fediverse is. To newcomers and people who haven't really heard of it yet, it sounds like Threads and its associated software.
  I've been on here for about two years, and I'm pretty sure that you were here before me. This stuff is part of our everyday language, whereas most people haven't heard of Lemmy, Piefed, or Mbin. They've all seen the ads for Threads though
  
  And the word meta itself is used for meta communities on the Threadiverse which have nothing to do with Meta the company. Words existed before companies took them.
- They try to stole pour vocabulary. one more reason to keep it alive.
Ye I use threadiverse myself.
Threadiverse is fine with me. Fediverse in general, but Threadiverse is more specific imo. We're early on the Fedi, we get to make the rules! Square is blue! Up is left and right is forward. MUAHAHAHAHA! :-D
- They've gone mad with freedom!
  
  Mad with freedom is the new closed garden oppression! All of the cool kids are doing it!
Personally, I use it. In my corner of Fedi, people do use it. At the end of the day, language is shaped by the people who use it. So yeah, let's keep using it. :)
- Sounds good, thank you for your comment :)
Just call it Fediverse.
Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It's even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.
- It doesn't make sense to tell someone "Welcome to the Fediverse" when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can't follow Mastodon or Sharkey users
  
  It's still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There's still work to be done.
  You can waxing poetically it if you want. "Welcome to our little corner of the Fediverse" etc.
  Or, if you are really that hung up on this not being the Fediverse, call it the Lemmyverse or smth.
  
  Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict
Yup I personally always use threadiverse and love to use threadiverse.link instead of lemmyverse.link
Maybe I missed something but never saw a problem with that name.
Edit: wanted to add that voyager has also started to use threadiverse.link as a share option (i believe lemsha.re as well but that service shut down).
- The only concern I've seen with the name is that Facebook named their thing "Threads", and so it might be confusing for people familiar with that.
  I still use the term 🤷
  
  Ahhh that was the problem! Okay I kinda understand. But I think we can refuse to let that asshole company steal words like Meta, Face & Book, Threads, etc. and act as if that was their invention.
  But yeah I just kept using threadiverse because I feel like everyone here understands exactly what it is and others use it too. If people wouldn't I wouldn't use it I guess :)
  Edit: gonna start shortening that to TV so I can just tell everyone "saw that on TV"
  
  Threads is pretty much dead and forgotten tho?
  
  Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you're referring to depending on context
We had some issues with the term "Threadiverse" when Meta's Threads was on the rise and in public discourse. And people started confusing this with what Mark Zuckerberg does. But I think that toned down substantially. I think Threadiverse is a good term, we might as well try again and see if the confusion is still there. And I mean it's a super niche term anyways to talk about a certain corner of a niche itself. So I guess it's often embedded in a context and that'd help as well. I'd go for it. And the threads are the identifying mark of this place, so it fits.
Personally I hate "verse" lingo.
- I get that. It's like every political conspiracy is a "-gate". But its a useful shorthand, and thats what the term needs.
  Every time I explain it to someone, I roll my eyes a little at those terms, but thats what it's called... It sounds so marketing. Trying to tell someone "join the Fediverse" feels like selling a cult, a little, lol
  I may ask my wife if she'll let me set up something for her to scroll other than TikTok, though. She's not the type to dive into new stuff like this without good reason, but if I just go "here's your app, all set up with stuff you'll generally enjoy!" maybe it'll drag her off that godawful site.
  
  Sure, although those terms are buzzwords only, not marketing speak. Like blogiverse, definitely not marketing.
  The marketing term the Social Web Foundation wants to put forward is "Open Social Web", but that encompasses more than the threaded softwares (includes Mastodon, Peertube, etc.)
- Shiny
Threadiverse ftw
I prefer forumverse. Or more inventive : Verse
On !fediverse@piefed.social i created flair to categorize :
forum software : threadiverse
media software as pixelfed, peertube, vernissage : mediaverse
blog : fediblog ...
But i think it is confusing and do not help a lot 🥹
- I've seen the arguments about Forumverse that the Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed format isn't really a forum (think NobeBB or Discourse) either
  
  @Blaze @Snoopy foraverse is easier to pronounce and more correct Latin
  @fediverse
I just say lemmy for all that zone, but happy to switch. Threadi huh. Bit awkward but I'm sure we'll get used to it.
Threadiverse, didn't zuckerberg call it that? Like Facebook Threads or something?
- He stole it, was already being used
If we don't use the term who else gonna do?
I still say lemmy. Cos I'm lazy and don't like change
- Yep it's like something from a bad sci fi movie
I didn't knew it was not accepted...
I mean I call the fediverse the federation so I guess I should call it the threaderation
- The United Threaderation of Instances?
  
  maybe the federation and the threadit empire!

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