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ICE Is Deporting People to Africa on Nearly Un-Trackable Military Flights | At least one of the flights dumped people in a prison camp in Ghana, a country where they had no ties

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ICE Is Deporting People to Africa on Nearly Un-Trackable Military Flights

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ICE Is Deporting People to Africa on Nearly Un-Trackable Military Flights | At least one of the flights dumped people in a prison camp in Ghana, a country where they had no ties

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2w ago

ICE Is Deporting People to Africa on Nearly Un-Trackable Military Flights | At least one of the flights dumped people in a prison camp in Ghana, a country where they had no ties

www.rollingstone.com /politics/politics-features/ice-deporting-africa-military-flights-1235431848/

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2w ago

ICE Is Deporting People to Africa on Nearly Un-Trackable Military Flights

www.rollingstone.com /politics/politics-features/ice-deporting-africa-military-flights-1235431848/

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A person sent to a country they didn't come from isn't "deportation". It's trafficking.
- Its Cruel. And its Unusual.
  
  Unfortunately, cruelty is the point in fascism
  
  But our courts now are so fucked that the lawyers will argue while it is cruel, it is not unusual because we are doing it all the time so therefore both of the terms of cruel and unusual aren't met and the court has no business stepping in the way of our legitimate executive Authority.
  Disallowing courts from Nationwide injunctions was a huge decision that is not recognized as such yet, that shows you where the Supreme Court is going to allow this to go, straight into the abyss. They think the Republic is already dead and all but name.
- of course dumpy will be punish--. Oh wait.
- Wow so brave. Buy a rifle and learn how to use it, memes aren't revolution.
  
  Wow, so brave. Telling someone to "but a rifle" online.
  
  Why aren’t we shooting these Lemmy posts?!?!
  lol, like people can’t arm themselves whilst also taking 5 minutes to post.
  Are you eating? No! Shoot!
  Are you pooping? No! Shoot!
  Are you breathing? No! Shoot!
  Don’t reply to me, you should shoot!
  Stop doing what Lemmy is for, shoot your phone!!
Slaves.
Don't kid yourself these people are being sold as slaves. That's why they're being sent to these countries. We are selling slaves.
- Qatari royalty gave Kushner 2 billion to manage. He's on their payroll. This is part of what they're getting.
  
  I think it was the Saudis that gave Kush 2 bil.... Unless Qatar did it too
- Americans transporting slaves to Ghana. What sort of hack fraud wrote this
- Nah. Why would Ghana want slaves from the US?
  
  Why does anyone anywhere want slaves?
  It’s profitable.
I guarantee the conditions at these African camps will be inhumane and murderous. They’re located in places already rife with conflict and cruelty. Places like Sudan, etc. It’s the point, to offshore human rights violations. Sounds familiar
- I don't think they are. I think a LOT of these people are being sold off into slavery or re-deported to their home countries (Trump is notoriously using Ghana as a middleman to deport people, especially Africans, to their home countries in violation of protection orders), where they're being jailed, killed, or tortured (which is literally what those protection orders are trying to forestall).
  
  or re-deported to their home countries
  Do you have any evidence that this is happening?
- Equivalent to throwing them out of helicopters.
The military flights cost up to $28k an hour, but it's OK, he's putting this all on your national debt, his giant credit card.
- he increased the defense budget to nearly 1trillion.
So when did music magazine rolling stone become one of the more reliable sources of non music news in this country? I'm seriously asking cause it's really strange to me. Good, but strange
- It's been decades now. Their in-depth reporting during the Bush II administration was leagues better than most mainstream news outlets.
- Always. They started out as rock n roll, which was counter-culture in its time. Rock often still is. They've always covered more than just music.
- They’ve had political contributors for a long time. Iirc even Hunter S Thompson contributed some political writings, sprinkled between his more sports-centric articles, to Rolling Stone.
- Since at least Hunter S. Thompson
- Agree. I learned how good rolling stone is from lemmy. Wish I found out earlier.
- A little bit before Teen Vogue became a hard hitting investigative and political media outlet.
  
  ... I genuinely can't tell if you're fucking with me
This is murder with extra steps. The genocide has already started. I genuinely thought we had more time before it started...
- We did. We had four years to throw this man in prison.
  
  Longer than that. His first presidency was more than 4 years ago.
  
  We need to start talking about how we're going to hold these people accountable once this is all over. And we need to think of methods that bypass SCOTUS all together.
  I propose that we rendition ICE agents to the countries of their victims to face trial in foreign courts. Are you an ICE agent that sent a bunch of innocent Venezuelans off to die in a prison camp in Ghana? We're shipping your ass to Venezuela to face trial for your crimes against Venezuelan citizens. Just bypass the US judicial system all together, same as Trump is doing. That way some future Republican president can't just pardon these bastards, and we don't have to worry about a criminally corrupt SCOTUS refusing to hold murderers accountable for their crimes.
  That's the thing about crimes against immigrants. In theory you can be prosecuted in either their current country or their home country. If you harm an immigrant in the US, even if the US justice system is incapable of holding you accountable, you could simply be extradited to the home nation of your victim.
  
  We go four years of lessons about how the rich and connected live by a totally different set of rules and laws from those of us that are not rich or connected.
  
  Yeah but have you considered
  The House has tabled this resolution
- Everyone for the past 8 years have been saying "The shit is right around the fucking corner! Please, get ready for it, so we can fight back when it does arrive!"
  Jan 6th was the Beer Hall Putsch. And those telling everyone this, and explaining the historical context and lessons were met with derisive remarks. We also warned the Dems that pushing Biden, and then Harris, into the running for POTUS was a dangerous move, and prone to failing. Then, we were accused of "helping Trump".
  Like, the knowledge of how close we were was widely available. It was ignored. Why do you think "Defund the police" was considered a "middle ground" for those on the left? Notice who is doing the gestapo work? Cops.
Jesus Christ, America.
- Nothing to do with one another despite very loud declarations to the contrary.
  
  There's a whole religion based on what Jesus did in America. It's so popular, it's turned one state into a de facto theocracy,
  It is all false.
  
  saaaave meeeeee jeeeeebus
You know, the Nazis did the same with wasting valuable military resources transporting considered undesirables to be imprisoned and killed, even though they were in the middle of a war, and the logistics were badly needed to transport supply and reinforcements to the front lines. I always say fascists will always fall because they are running on emotions. So much for "facts don't care about feelings" from MAGAts.
- This isn't really true. Generally, the Nazis were running trains eastward with supplies for their troops in Russia. The trains filled with victims for the camps would have otherwise returned empty. The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States for incarceration.
  As far as the expense of the Holocaust was concerned, the death camp Treblinka is pretty instructive. Treblinka operated for a period of 18 months, during which approximately 900,000 people were killed by the exhaust from a single salvaged tank engine. The camp was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 local civilian workers. Treblinka was an utterly trivial fraction of Germany's overall war effort, and yet it killed a million people.
  
  The difference though is that the Allies could spare more resources, while the Axis can't. German rail lines also keep getting sabotaged and the blockade and air bombing kept the resources to fix them being disrupted or destroyed. The Allies didn't have such issues on their end. The German trains coming from the Eastern front could have loaded up more wounded but even so, I imagine they would have more limited available train freight because of destruction.
  The anti-partisan action by the Axis also took up so much manpower that could have otherwise gone to the frontline. Not to mention that the very same people the Germans killed, could have been soldiers themselves on the side of the Axis. Many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis as liberators and could have helped the Nazis against the Soviet Union, but of course, the Nazis had a different idea. Mussolini's fascism was mild compared to the Nazis, and he was right that the Hitler's obsession on race is a waste of time and resources.
  
  The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States
  Well, that and the fact that it completely takes them out of the theater of war. They're not going to be rescued and released from a camp in the middle of Montana.
  And even if a few do escape, they're a few days walk from anywhere, and will stick out like a sore thumb if they did encounter a local.
- Always a confession.
The fact that people aren't protesting this shit in the streets is a sign that this country is dead
- People are, stop checking to see if the public is fighting or not through corporate news mediums that have a stake in making you feel like nobody is protesting...
  
  Sent from my iPhone
- Most the major news in the US is run by republican loyalists. People are protesting all this but the cameras are all pointed Charlie Kook's memorial.
  
  No war but the class war.
  
  amazing how well that worked out, isnt it?
  All attention on the latest outrage, distracting from the latest evil.
- There are big protests in the places they're doing the most aggressive racial profiling. It just doesnt make the national news. See this for example
  
  Portland's revoke the permit group (ice buildings' conditional land use permit for private property) is causing such a comotion that the mayor has publically started talking about it and they're on track to revoke the building permit. Just had to shut down a couple of his meetups to get him to pay attention.
  
  Reverend Black chanting "God damn you!" after taking pepperballs to the face goes kinda hard
  https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com/post/3lza2bo2k3c2f
- The revolution will not be televised.
- A sign that people don't think they have a way to fight. We don't have any leadership, fighting under the Democrats is a waste of time that sticks your neck out without accomplishing anything. You get some real leadership and you will get fight. Until you get rid of these Democrats that see themselves as controlled opposition this is what you will get.
  
  Join an ice out of x or 50501 group near you. Major political parties only cause change when they're forced to with the ire of the general public. Should read the book "this is an uprising" by mark engler
- They are lol the media is just ignoring it
- To be fair the regime has been pretty brutal. The protests this summer in the big cities was met with military force.
  It's not good signs as you say. The authoritarian regime is in full swing.
- Not to mention the people who agree with this.
Now that MAGAts have set the precedent. I look forward to dumping MAGAts there when It is our turn to govern.
- Sending them directly to hell would be faster, cheaper, and allow the living to not have MAGATs for neighbors.
- That ship sailed back in November.
  
  Nope, they're counting on you to give up. They would not be trying to gerrymander mid election to make up for their policy.
  And they're running off of 2024 election results to carve up the new districts, but the discontent is growing even among some of their own base. Stay the course and keep fighting this.
- lol fascists on both sides, just different label for the enemy.
- That's a cute fantasy of yours.
The US has now gone full circle.
- Yeah, started with importing slaves from Africa and now they're a net exporter.
- Spoiler: We never strayed from the path
notice how they're sending these planes to countries that barely have an airforce to chase them the fuck away with.
they're sending them to places where the local governments wouldnt dare protest.
- I don't think you get it.
  Those govts are being paid to take those people, you think they are doing this for free? LOL! And why those particular places? While, probably hoping a lot of them just dissappear.
At least this indicates the missing people from Alligator Alcatraz are alive. And isn't that a sentence I would very much like to never, ever say again.
- MONKEY'S PAW CURLS
  ...Ugh. This is FUBAR. 😨
- Alligator Auschwitz
Commenting for visibilty. Nothing to say about this, it speaks for itself
At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations, and guess what happens then?
(*Spoiler: Hitler did this until other countries started refusing all the deportations. Only then did he start gassing people. This is stage 1.)
- At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations
  Yeah, no. They are being paid to accept these people and they intend to do absolutely nothing with them. just dump them out there and say "good luck".
  
  I think that when the American dollar becomes useless, these countries will be accepting the trafficked as slaves. ...If they aren't already. No decent person would send over 500 children to be disappeared.
Jesus f-ing Christ, it's like inverse-slavery and America having decided to be the slave sellers this time around. Literally negotiating to work people from previously active workforces to countries they have no ties and a paper agreement of their guilt that allows them to be manhandled like slaves on the industrial scale.
Dumped? No, they sold those folks to Ghana. Trump doesn't give anything away for free.
- More likely they are paying Ghana to imprison them.
Just as our forefathers intended. This was their vision for the country, apparently.
_/s
- The Founding Fathers literally wrote about this exact kind of shit in the Declaration of Independence. Among the grievances they listed against King George:
  For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
  For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
  For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
  For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
  One of the grievances was that for certain offenses, American colonists weren't tried in courts located in the colonies, where they had support systems and would face a jury of their peers. Instead people, many of whom had never even been to England, would be shoved on a boat, sailed months across the sea, and then face trial in London.
  Seriously, go through the Declaration of Independence and its list of grievances against King George. Trump has flagrantly violated the majority of them.
  
  Last time NPR posted the Declaration of Independence it made Republicans angry
  
  Grievance 10: "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."
  That is ICE.
  
  This is honestly the first time I've ever been grateful for the Third Amendment (barring quartering of soldiers in private homes) in my entire life.
  Not that they won't just ignore it if/when they need to.
  
  You forgot some of the highlights, and critically, one of the biggest reasons: The king didn't allow colonists to do a full genocide of indigenous peoples.
  Hence the declaration that no movement past the Appalachians was allowed.
  
  Maybe when enough spouses have been deported to Africa, and enough farmers have committed suicide, these bigoted jackanapes might finally start to glimpse what is happening.
- The forefathers who....owned slaves? Let's be real here I'm sure they would be questioning why they aren't just being enslaved here, the forefathers were all violent racist old white dudes who were pissed they could not get super rich by skirting taxes from the British. Let's not act like they are some beacon of morality and freedom when they were not.
- Lawmakers are representatives of the people. The people are where the power lies, and where the will to change things has to come from. The American people need to stop waiting for someone else to stop this.
- People voted for deportations of illegals, not to send illegal immigrants to foreign prisons for life without charge. But we have no lawmakers that will make an effective public case against this
  Lets not fool ourselves. This is exactly what they wanted and voted for.
It’s not illegal if no one stops them.
What's the point if they can't reference the numbers to their cult?
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/united-states/2025/09/19/africans-deported-by-us-to-ghana-at-risk-of-torture-and-persecution-if-sent-home-

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