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Davel, .ml admin: "Questioning our pro-China and pro-Russia government stances and content comrade? That's bigotry, BAN!

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That mod in those countries would be made to disappear for the pronouns in his name, then tortured until he admits to raping children.
I was surprised they didn't remove the thread
But then I understood
They ban everyone that accuses them of censoring, or being tankies, or speaking against china and russia, and they keep their tankies' comments so people are convinced
Nobody asked for one, but I got a pretty good explanation for why this is what why this is happening.
ML's on lemmy are predominantly of the "deprogram" variety (in reference to the deprogram podcast and r/thedeprogram being quite large on reddit), and generally they're a laughing stock given the narratives they parrot that are so de-attached from the material reality and their various mannerisms when it comes to arguing. One of the larger narratives is that the west and western imperialism is horrible (which is true), and that whoever is opposed to it must be a force for good or something, which manifests as uncritical support for China, Russia, Iran even though they're both imperialist bourgeoisie states too.
I see some people claim that they're some paid Russian shills, which is wrong. They do it for free, with a genuine belief because that's what their community says and does.
- Yes, I know some people like this irl, and they are definitely ideological.
  It's true that most of us in the "West" are in a bubble and don't realise just how bad the imperialism caused by our countrymen has been, and continues to be. Like, we fuck the rest of the world so hard, we just call it economics.
  I don't have any answers on how to solve that, unfortch. I'm just a helpless citizen of the empire watching my surplus income go to inflicting starvation on children before they get shot in the stomach...
- So a "got some insight but stopped thinking at 8" case?
you guys have no idea how much money goes towards the russian propaganda machine
- No. How much?
- putin literally funds it, billions on this troll farms. plus he funds other right wing groups or media as well.
omg can you guys quit spamming idiot. You don't have to post your bullshit three times a day
Poor dude was new and just didn't know what was going on, or even the atmosphere where they posted the question. Lmao I really need to migrate a piefed instance stat.
- This is precisely why more instances should ~~defend~~ defed .ml
  They make the onboarding experience shitty for new users who haven't built up some immunity to tankie brain rot
  
  Lemmy.cafe does this :)
  
  I wish lemmy world could defed. Dumbocrat astroturfers.
  
  defend -> defed*?
  This is one of many reasons I have autocorrect off. lol
  
  ~~Pixelfed~~ isn't really a drop in replacement
  Edit:Piefed isn't Pixelfed
Lmao I saw that post a bit ago and was like “hah yep ban incoming 😬”
- Gotta love the end date, too: 9/11 - like, really?!?
  
  It probably was a 1 month ban (30 days) so just an unfortunate coincidence
- You hang out on lemmyml?
  That place is toxic
  
  I lurk mostly
Sweet, yet another instance to block
- block the triad, .ml, hexbear, lemmygrad. also block politics.world too, but not the instance.
  
  libs passing up the opportunity to call it a "troika" is just sad
- You’ll notice that it’s still .ml making questionable decisions.
  Edit: noticed you’ve only been here for 4 months. Lemmygrad and hexbear are also worth blocking
  
  It should be mentioned that several instances has already defederated from lemmygrad and hexbear.
  
  Without checking, no shot blahaj federates with those. Still a good edit note for instances that do though.
The US coordinated the disinformation campaign, and has been for a very long time.
- more significant damage was done by russian disinformation/misinformation, through various media and people and grifters, get out of your high horse.
  
  Post-Soviet Russia is the fruit of the US labor. They’re no longer commies.
- Did you notice that the US was not involved in this conversation at all until @Subdivide6857@midwest.social brought it up? That the US is in fact entirely irrelevant to this discussion of blatant censorship and partisanship on Lemmy.ml?
  This is a perfectly clear and obvious example of the whataboutism game that tankies love to play. This user should only be ridiculed for their transparent attempts at distraction and deflection. Otherwise, do not engage.
  
  It's entirely relevant that the rest of the lemmyverse is dominated and astroturfed by zionist dumbocrats
  
  You bet, bud. The US is the reason for the disinformation campaign. The US is always involved in the imperialist game. That’s not whataboutism. You have these feelings due to the US. It’s not even difficult to sift through the shit. You’re lazy.
- Russia and China, on the other hand? Entirely straightforward and transparent in their reporting. No disinformation campaigns there, no sir.
  
  i think russia takes the #1 in the aggressive propaganda platforms out there, they devote significant resources to do it too. hence why you see the sudden rise of right wing governments all over the world, the porn bans, age verfication.
  
  One of the lines I see repeated with every business cycle is "China is lying about their economic data". Like, quarter after quarter, year after year, decade after decade.
  At some point, you have to engage in a bit of meta-criticism. Why do you believe an enemy nation-state is secretly failing when only the lay residents of the rival power seem to be aware of it? What is your crystal ball and how is it showing information that's more reliable than the Goldman Sachs trading desk or the IMF analytics department?
  So much of the time it seems like Yeomni Park is the source for every American's understanding of the outside world. And anyone who asserts a contrary view must be a shill, a bot, or a political extremist.
  
  Ehh, I guess you can lean into the capitalist garbage if you’d like. The US is having a swell time.
- This is Russian Disinformation. And anything that suggests otherwise is also Russian Disinformation. And if you argue with me you're a Russian Bot. And don't even think about downvoting. You'll only make me wave my American Flag harder while singing the national anthem louder.
  
  A world without whataboutism would certainly be a world where we heard less from tankies like you.
Declaring a boycott after you've been banned from a community is certainly a vibe.
- Well the reason for the boycott is parically due to the nonsensical bans

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