And all the antivaxxers I ever knew sure like recreational substances too.

They're terrified of a (usually) dead virus/other bug in a tiny vial but will do ozempic, massive doses of ivermectin and god knows what else lol

When scientists warned that milk could be contaminated with bird flu and pasteurized milk was safe, they started drinking raw milk en masse. There is no logic for them.
- Oppositional defiant disorder. Very well understood, researched heavily especially in young children.
mRNA vaccines carry a code for your cells to produce the viral protein shells, so not only is not a living virus, it's never been the virus and could not be more harmless.
It's also impossible for it to alter your DNA.
What it could do is be weaponized to produce prions or whatever but the dummies never cry about that (because you can disprove it easily)
- Your big words scare anti-vaxxers.

My favorite hypocrite is Jenny McCarthy who obviously has never met a cosmetic injectable she doesn't like but was one of the foremost anti-vax idiots out there.

Botulism toxin injected directly into my face - 🌞🎶😁👄👅

A vaccine preventing measles mumps and rubella - 😵‍💫☠️💀❤️‍🩹👎

Botox is actually super helpful for a number of legitimate medical reasons, which a lot of people don't know. Migraines, limb contractures, anal fissures as a few examples.m
I hope Jenny McCarthy stubs her toe.
- Can we swap that with falls feet first into a wood chipper at 75 percent power?
Yeah, but botulism is all natural.
- Only all natural 100% organic toxins injected into my face! 😤
  JK, I'll also take any variety of filler you got to keep my face from caving in on itself.
- That's what I tell myself when I eat expired MREs!

They really came out of the wood work when the covid vaccines were released. Friends and acquaintances who were there munching down e's of unknown origin back in early 2000s suddenly had a different stance about putting something "unknown" in them.

and then started following RFK JR, J ROGAN, J PETERSON and lastly trump. i knew a family member that sort of did this. he was literally scoffing at the vaccine a few months ago.
Pre pandemic i know one real life antivaxxer. Vut even then, kinda not really, he did vaccinate his kids, but he didn't like that he was forced too for school. Some real "don't tell me what to do, because i was gonna do it anyway" energy. To me antivaxxers were just the butt of online jokes.
Post pandemic, i could name so many antivaxxers, it's insane. And they all have the dumbest takes imaginable. And they always try to convince you, but i never thought for a second that this person might be onto something. The last guy who talked to me about it was a friend of my dad. I know him for a ling time, but not well at all. He said that the pandemic was all planned, but not enough people died, so they have another one coming, and that's why he's not getting vaccinated. Wait, the government tries to kill people, it didn't work as well as they thought, but they also try to vaccinate people so they don't die? Why do they try to kill people? And his aswer was basically: "many people believe that." Motherfucker, i know you, you hang out with 5 people who are 60 to 70 years old and they are all reclusive alcoholics. It doesn't really matter what they believe.
- Most of the people I know who went antivax during covid are very specifically antivax about the covid vax only. They are afraid of the mRNA tech, they think it's going to modify their genes or some BS. It really is political BS though. During the pandemic, the right wing decided to make this an issue, and they stick with it.

Whatever they can hork down by the Big Gulpful, but penetration by a stranger? Oh, no. That's for their leaders, in secret.

Kinky

That's my granddaughter.

Fully vaxxed EXCEPT for covid. Calls the first (of many) times she caught as 'when I almost died'. She's currently injecting one of the fun crop of weight loss drugs without a second thought because there aren't any TikTok influencers who are telling her it's dangerous.

Ozempic hospitalized my ex for 12 days and he's now in a class action lawsuit against the makers because it's a known side effect that wasn't warned against. It's not something to play with at all.
- What's the side effect if you don't mind sharing?

Few people are consistent in their worldview and actions.

Had a crunchy hippie lecture me about the danger of the covid vaccine, because you don't know what's in it. This was at a house party during covid, where she smoked cigarettes, snorted ketamine, MDMA, and mephedrone.

And like, the ingredients of the COVID vaccine are like, totally top secret.

Antivax but do random shrooms/lsd/blow from strangers and buy their weed illegally

but we dont know whats in those vaccines lol
ITS ALL NATURAL!!

I ask antivaxers I know if they ever turned down a medicine prescribed by their doctor other than the one the media told them to fear?

¿Por qué no los dos?

I'll take every vaccine I can get. Hell, I would sign up for the smallpox vaccine if I could get it, even though that disease hasn't existed in the wild in decades. I want every covid booster. I want it all! Jab me up, give me that sweet MRNA!

And I'll take the other stuff too. I love me a good edible. I'm on tirzepatide myself, even though insurance doesn't cover it. How do I afford it? Simple! I pirate the hell out of it!

I just got prescriptions from my GP for the pneumococcal and RSV vaccines because it turns out that I qualify. Anything I can get vaccinated for I do, because fuck antivaxxers.
I know someone who is a 60 year old smoker who went and lied to public health that she was a sex worker to get the MPOX vaccine, which makes me laugh, but i wouldn't mind it myself because you can get it touching surfaces.
- Honestly, I've been pawing through the list of medical conditions that let you still be eligible for the new covid booster. I have something that I think will qualify. But my funnier goto is that depression is one of the eligible conditions. And nothing makes me more depressed than an anti-science quack running our vaccine system!
- My grandfather only lived to be a father because of the polio vaccine. Even my stepmother had polio in the fucking womb... it ate her kneecaps... she became a dancer to build leg muscle strength. My family has a valid, empirical respect for vaccines. I am a nurse and when I was young, I passed on the flu shots... until I got the flu... and found out what that hell was, I wasn't sure if I would survive it. After that, I will get every flu shot offered, I take every Covid Booster, I go the shingles vax and next year, I will be eligible for the RSV shot. I am getting them all, like Pokeman.

"You don't know what's in that shite" - Debbie, 52. Lifelong smoker.

Also, these people will take paracetamol with no questions asked.

If I am the head of department of health, I would order a candid infomercial along the motif of "you wouldn't steal a car, you wouldn't pirate" but it goes "you don't question paracetamol. Why do you question vaccines?"

What about paracetamol?
- Use them too often enough and it will cause hearing loss. It happened to my dad. The doctor said it is one of the side effects. I know other people who pop paracetamol unnecessarily when they feel slight pain or headache.
- We actually don't know how it works. A new plausible theory came out but it is just speculation so far and doesn't account for everything.
  https://www.livescience.com/health/we-may-finally-know-how-tylenol-works-and-its-not-how-we-thought
  "Even though we have been using paracetamol for the management of pain for more than 130 years, we still don't fully understand how the drug works," Wheate told Live Science. One widely held theory was that acetaminophen stopped the body from making. prostaglandins, which can trigger pain and inflammation, he said."If the results of this study are confirmed, then it significantly changes our understanding of the drug."
  Keep in mind this study was done in rats and this article is from 6/19 of this year.

Just goes to show you how it’s not a rational decision driven by evidence and consideration like they reflexively say, it’s just reactionary nonsense spread by traitors. I will never forgive traitors for what they have done to dismantle society in the modern age.

I mean, if you keep nearly or actually ODing on Ivermectin, you'll shit your guts out, could lose weight that way, probably cheaper.

... probably a lot more unsafe, there's a lot more OD sideeffects than diarrhea... but... cheaper!

Is a hamburger a recreational substance

Vaccines are required because most viruses can infect virtually anyone. Ozempic is not because most people are not overweight and many who are are able to loose the weight naturally. You can use your drug however you like but please stop making these insane comparisons

To be fair, how many anti-vaxx haters are vegan? And I am pro-vaccination. But also it would be nice if we could solve the whole pandemic problem a bit more completely, rather than slapping a band-aid on while sprinting for the next round.

Wait, what?
- The majority of emerging infectious diseases have a zoonotic origin, and factory farms are basically ideal breeding grounds for pandemics.
  https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/06/13/factory-farms-and-the-next-pandemic/