No Kings Protest, Minnesota
No Kings Protest, Minnesota
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I was a Why don't you fucking protest!?-guy here on Lemmy and I am not, anymore. It takes time to organize. This is beautiful, I'm proud of you. Keep it up!
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The media doesn’t cover protests. Most local channels are owned by mega corps like Sinclair.
The problem is that information outlets are owned by bad actors.
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Fortunately Sinclair only has 1 station in Minnesota, WUCW, which is not one of the big ones where most people get their news (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX).
I think they're dead last in news market share.
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I'm just glad there was a protest I didn't hear about after the fact. Or like the morning of.
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I heard that the protests in MN were cancelled, which seems like a cut and dry tactical misstep from protest organizers to me, but I haven't been able to find a lot of details.
This doesn't look cancelled.
Anyone on the ground know more details?
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According to various news reports, the suspect's car had a manifesto, a hit list of people to target (one report said the list had a bunch of politicians, another said the list had a bunch of pro-choice activists), and apparently the car also had a bunch of No Kings signs in it. I'm guessing they thought he was going to slip into a protest and try to hurt people?
Something important to know about the two people who were shot: until her death, Melissa Hortman was a member of the Minnesota State House of Representatives; and John Hoffman is a member of the Minnesota State Senate. Both were Democrats.
And up until they were shot, the Minnesota House had 134 Members: 66 Republicans vs 67 Democrats (with one seat empty to be filled later). And the Minnesota Senate had 67 members: 33 Republicans and 34 Democrats. If the assassinations had both been successful, both chambers would have been tied. As it is, they're only saying that Hoffman is "stable", but there are no further details.
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I'd heard it was over flyers in a car but I was hoping there was more to it than that. That's a pretty flimsy threat to be capitulating to when we're fighting murderous fascists, and sets a bad precedent.
I was not aware of how thin dem majorities were. That's very important context, thank you.
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I was there. The organizers were sending updates to anyone who RSVPed. I don't like the idea of RSVPing for something like this, but I did. They announced before the event that they had cancelled any elected officials who were planning to speak. They also said something like, "If you are told that the event is cancelled, that is just a rumor."
Several officials did speak and they were pretty epic, honestly. I don't know if they announced the cancellation as a red herring and had everyone speak as planned, or if the speakers I saw were the late replacements. IMO this was a much bigger crowd than the first Hands Off protest.
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Interesting. I'm in small town VA, and moved house today, and am pretty keenly feeling frustration that I couldn't show up today. Searching for local actions, I landed on the base nokings.org page at some point, where there was a bright red banner saying that MN events that weren't already started were canceled at Tim Walz' recommendation, because the assassin was still at large. I can't say what time I saw that, I looked for news several times today
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They announced before the event that they had cancelled any elected officials who were planning to speak. They also said something like, "If you are told that the event is cancelled, that is just a rumor."
Ah, thank you! That makes a lot more sense to me now.
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I know a bunch of people who went in st. Paul, and in Duluth there was definitely people out with signs. Can't cancel freedom yo!
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I was gonna go but heard they were cancelled too because of the shootings this morning
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We all knew about the stay home advisory. A lot of folk were only more determined to gather, and there was a general understanding that if there was an attack, it would throw gasoline on the movement as a whole. Crowd energy is weird.
Plus I spent three hours making my sign.
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More people visible at a cancelled protest than some ego-stroking event that happened in DC...
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And this is after they "cancelled" it.
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Can I get this side by side with trump’s inaugurations please
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That looks like a bigger crowd than trump's birthday war parade.
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Definitley bigger - the aerial shots from his DC event showed more empty space than people, and this MN turnout is impressive considering it was technicaly "cancelled" lol.
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Was this the one I've been hearing was cancelled?
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This is the picture I've been scrolling for. Thank you.
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Now do it again.
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Republicans should be terrified at this point. The protests are peaceful ... for now.
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...nah man, they're just itching for an excuse to roll out deadly force and mass voter suppression...
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Yes wait a little bit longer to actually do something. LOL
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I do see people's point about America just being such a passive or incredibly violent country. But, when I went out to the protest, I did notice that you had anarchist, grannies and liberals in the same setting. So we gotta watch and see what happens over time. But I mean, I think collective suffering is going to push people to the edge. Which eventually will awaken something, I hope. In the meantime, I have my eyes set on Europe. At least the cheeseburger kings bday party was an absolute flop. You can see it in his face. Trump is such a little baby bitch.
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Yes, there you go! Good job, USA!
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As someone now living in Europe, I find the US protests mild and small. When Europeans protest, they protest. I mean, my native Greece saw a massive protest in Feb, well over a million went out, in a country of ~9 million. This is how you do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3vEKMnA-8
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You're basically watching a whole country (re)learn how to do this. Most of us have had it good for a long time, up until very recently. You're seeing a lot of first-timers in every one of these protests, as the movement grows. Give it time.
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The problem, the Americans work too much. If they had the vacation days like the Europeans, these protests would turn French. The demonstrations in Germany are weak compared to the French too.
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...and in France we get maimed by tear gas grenades and rubber bullets for it. Yay.
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isn't that the one that got called off
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Yep, we had a "targeted political attack" in Brooklyn Center (a 2nd ring suburb of Minneapolis) about 2 hours before the protests were set to start.
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Fantastic. Great name for protests too. Go get 'em.
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Can you imagine what things would be like if they all voted?
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people were being manipulated.
they were told that "trump would fix everything. on day one, the economy would be booming, and everybody would have well-paying jobs again."
now, where is that reality? trump lied, and people are realizing that. that's why they're angry.
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Yeah, people wouldn't be protesting on the streets while Gaza and Iran are bombed
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Why isnt anyone swarming the private, for-profit detention centers? People like talking about guillotines but not the Bastille
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Because if they go after any corporate entity directly, there will be guns, and death, and the survivors will be arrested for trespassing and vandalism and a slew of other crimes.
They want to be loud and safe, not effective for a cost.
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that's not how democratic changes are done.
progress happens because people demand that society walks in a sane direction. taking things into your own hands basically never does anything good.
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We dont have democracy in the US. The electoral system is specifically set up to not allow it in any way. The masses can vote only so long is they have predetermined choices and outcomes.
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Peacefully protesting Democrats serve capitalism and capitalism only.
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Love to see it
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Big kudos to the No Kings protestors. The parade for Krasnov received what is deserved, it was fucking lame.
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Hahahha. I see on Russian forums - they call organization a "communal farm style", and that it looked more like a prisoner of war walk.
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I like how all the big media just happened to publish articles about "peaceful protests" to pacify the protestors, "please don't be violent everyone, the police can't shoot you all in the leg with rubber bullets".
The violent protests are the successful ones. Just ask every country, ever.
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I do see people's point about America just being such a passive or incredibly violent country. But, when I went out to the protest, I did notice that you had anarchist, grannies and liberals in the same setting. So we gotta watch and see what happens over time. But I mean, I think collective suffering is going to push people to the edge. Which eventually will awaken something, I hope. In the meantime, I have my eyes set on Europe. At least the cheeseburger kings bday party was an absolute flop. You can see it in his face. Trump is such a little bitch.
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SODA!
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Now that's a beautiful protest. Very nice, MN!
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No one showed up to the cheeseburger kings birthday party.
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Um, yeah, that channel is propaganda...
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This is incredible.
"small protest, one of the smallest. My speeches are bigger, much biggly"
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Welll... It's honestly not that big. The entire turnout across the States was not that big. The two anti Brexit protests in London had about 1.5 million participants and Britain has a much smaller population. Most Americans don't seem to care.
It would be more incredible if those people were armed and swarming the studios of radical fascist media and beating the hell out of pro-trump talking heads.
Standing around waving signs and cheerleading shitty chants does nothing and will be forgotten in a week.
History has overwhelmingly shown that non-violence is more successful than violence. You do you.
All this pro-violence rhetoric seems to be confusing correlation for causation.
This is correct.
Don't do violence.
Think of different ways of non-violence and do them.