Banned for... I don't even know.

As you might have noticed, there was a bit of drama lately around the moderation of !europe@feddit.org and feddit.org in general, with a result being the creation of !Europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

So, I just checked the modlogs for unrelated reasons and stumbled upon this:

I have never engaged with this new community nor have I participated in any discussion around the aforementioned issues before the ban. I made one comment yesterday that refers to the discussion and one comment three days ago arguing about the way the feddit admins argued their point and stating the holocaust was on a much larger scale than the genocide against Palestine.

I don't know if I want this situation to be remedied though as this to me looks like guilty by association (I engage a lot with communities on feddit.org since I'm german and it's the largest german instance with a lot of relevant communities, so, duh) but I want to know if I oversaw something or if this is the style of moderation in the new community or the whole instance.

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Hi. Thank you for posting this. I apologize that I didn't put the link to the comment in question in the reason or make it more clear. I have searched for and have re-applied the ban with a new reason including the link to your comment which prompted the ban. To specify, the claim that it is antisemitic to believe Israel shouldn't exist as a nation state is considered Zionist apologia. Rule 2 Prohibits Zionism in any form, and extends on and off community. This isn't the place to debate that or its merit.
Bans for bigotry and Zionism may be issued preemptively due to their severity and the fact that they undermine the values of the community. They will not be tolerated and if people really want to express Zionism or bigotry there are other places they can go.
Now I am open to appeals if people believe I made a mistake or if they believe they made a mistake, and of course you are free to appeal in the future when/if there is a new top mod in the community. But for now I think we're done here. I hope I was able to clear things up and I hope you have a nice day.
- So, explaining German law is zionism now?lmao.
  and of course you are free to appeal in the future
  Yeah, no, thanks, I'm fine. I don't want to be in a community with people who want to answer a genocide with genocide.
  
  answer a genocide with genocide.
  What does this mean? This seems like a bad faith accusation which is in extremely poor taste right now. Are you trying to say that I encourage or death or harm to Israelis? Is that what you're saying? It sounds a lot like that's what you're implying. It's lovely when the mask comes right off and reveals people's true intentions.
  
  . I don't want to be in a community with people who want to answer a genocide with genocide.
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- Israel doesn’t deserve shit and neither do you
  
  What are you hoping to accomplish by creating all these accounts and posting the same nonsense? You're not going to make the mods here mad; deleting your post and banning you from the community is like two clicks and takes like 10 seconds. All you're going to do is get the admins of the instance you're abusing to require approval for accounts and this will hurt people who would like to make an account there for a valid reason.
  Tl;dr Israel sucks and so do you.
  
  You are a loser, if it's multiple people doing this you are all losers. No one is listening to you, they think you're lying trolls and they are right to think that. Take the hint and fuck off!
YDI, don't support genocide.
- Lol, I don't though.
- No state deserves to exist, especially not a cult based ethnostate committing a genocide.
Not YDI but not PTB. Both sides are in the right. Saying the holocaust was worse than what Israel is doing in Gaza is a true statement but at the same time sounds like you are trying to make what is happening in Gaza seem like not a big deal (which it is) and sounds like zionist apologia if you don't make it obvious you dislike what Israel are doing.
- First check the dates. As mentioned, the ban happened a week ago, the comment you're referring to was posted afterwards.
  Second, isn't it enough to state that Israel is conducting a genocide against Palestine to make clear I'm against that? I mean, who actually likes genocides (except for some rare weird and dangerous lunatics)?
  
  Second, isn't it enough to state that Israel is conducting a genocide against Palestine to make clear I'm against that?
  No, not when paired with zionist apologia. It would be like saying 'The nazis are committing genocide, but they still have a right to exist". The net outcome of the two statements is barely more than a finger wag.
  Isreal must be stopped at all costs, including the dissolution of Israel as a Jewish state if necessary.
YDI
Wow all the throwaway too lol YDI
- Yeah agreed. This has to be one of the worst threads I've seen on here.
They'll ban everything and everyone there. Their manifesto is a self-declared war on "zionism", but they don't really know what that is. It's exactly the same like with the old LinuxSucks community where they'd ban everyone for commenting anything that could be construed as positive towards Linux. And it's the homebase for their down-voting brigade.
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PTB for sure.
YDI, I’m demoting your tag from vegan to zionist.
Ptb
Makes a community to escape censorship, begins to censor themselves
Can't make this shit up, I swear
- That you?:
  
  lmao imagine thrawling my account and all you can find is a factually correct statement.
  for everyone else, the context is the following: I wrote "jews" and the other person told me to capitalize it to "Jews" because you capitalize "nationality names" and judaism apparently was a nationality (the one of Israel) (makes absolutely no sense, I know).

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