The fuck does she think indoctrination means? Oh that's right, they've long given up arguing in good faith. There is no rational point to be made, I always forget that.
Tbh it's the first time I see her name (iirc), and thanks to that everything, including the answer she received, was "amusing" to me.
She pretty much sounds like any of the current right-wing populists and anarchocapitalists. This is an american trend, sadly winning force everywhere.. This meme is fully on-topic across the western world :(
I don’t know if it’s winning force so much as it’s being spread by bots and bad actors, although the result is more or less the same. Flooding the zone with their rhetoric makes it look like it’s well supported, which in turns convinces some people that it might not be nonsense.
We're all going to run headlong into a very difficult inflection point in human development as a species very, very soon. Which is the looming divide between people who have no idea how their own minds work, and those who have even a shred of self-awareness.
And not a "facebook/twitter argument" type of self-awareness, but understanding that your intelligence and your understanding of things are entirely separate factors. We are species of cognitive dissonance. It's baked-in. Everyone, even YOU personally reading this, has some level of contradictory ideas or feelings that you can't pry apart without effort.
Some people think about how they think, and come to conclusion that they need to make effort to balance out their values and understanding of the world. Other people are going "brain go vroom" and conclude any idea they have, no matter how ridiculous, as long as it aligns with how they feel at that moment, MUST be true because they still think brains are fact-finding machines, not story-telling machines. This is why we have anti-vax doctors and climate-change-denying scientists (although rare) which is because they live in reaction and story-telling, not reason. If anything, education can make it much, much harder to break out of story-telling-reaction mode, because you think your own thoughts far less fallible.
So yeah, education is only part of the problem. We are going to have to figure out ways to teach people self-awareness, how to think about their own thoughts, or we're going to have billions of brains rotting in an AI/social-media/emotional-porn cesspit in the next decade and they vote and carry guns.
It reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post, which describes how for some people reality creates emotions, but for other people emotions create reality
The first viewpoint, "emotion creates reality," is truth for a great many people. Not a healthy truth, not a truth that promotes good relationships, but a deep, lived truth nonetheless. It's seductive. It means that whatever you're feeling is just and right, that you're never in the wrong unless you feel you're in the wrong. For people whose self-image is so battered and fragile that they can't bear anything but validation, often it feels like the only way they can face the world.
Give someone 1000$ and them it is for the group they manage But the trick is they can choose how much to give and keep the rest. Maga be keeping it all.
That's the neat part. It's weaponized feigned incompetence.
After Noem got the definition of Habeus Corpus exactly wrong in a recent hearing, some Lemmings have suggested that the RNC stooges in power are all playing dumb. Now, I can't unsee it. It makes sense: play dirty because your aims are underhanded and illegal, and your opposition is both outraged and busy attacking the wrong thing. Every time we all get in a fit about how stupid this sounds, which takes up valuable space and time from doing anything useful.
Edit: it's like a misbehaving kid that knows if he keeps telling the right kind of lie he can get away with just about anything.
Edit2: In Greene's case, her "argument" is also signaling being a "useful idiot" to her base for getting the job done.
What's especially fucking dumb is the argument of 'hurr money out of your pocket'. That shit goes right out the god damned window the second you look at where our taxes go i.e. the budget. Of what we overall pay education is laughably low.
Por when you think about it for more than one second. You went to school. If it wasn't paid out of taxes it would have had (not a native English speaker, imnot sure if have had is right) to be paid LITERALLY out of your own pocket
People say this all the time like it's some edgy gotcha.
And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same..
..I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded..but poorly. My son is in middle school, I've noticed he doesn't have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don't have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it's hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at "specials", for what its worth. And this disappoints me.
But education as I see, is not "just to get you ready for the workforce" though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.
School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit "you get out what you put in".
Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it's a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?
I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly
they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.
Schools are for indoctrinating children, guys. Train them to fight their biology, conform to a factory setting, and have knowledge presented as something frustrating and difficult obtain. You guys just want them indoctrinated the "correct way" from teachers s stupid and out of date as you are.
MTG IS astoundingly stupid. Boebert couldn't manage to complete high school. Noem seems to think Habeas Corpus is the name the orange guy gave his "kick anyone out" croquet mallet. Just 3 among many, of the losers who seem to be in charge right now.