Andrew Tate indicted and will face trial on rape, human trafficking charges in Romania

As a Romanian I want to tell everyone "you're welcome, world".

Thank you for this and also for all the delicious Italian food.
- Don't let the Italians know that our version of their dishes is better, they'll start throwing hands in 2 seconds flat.
The women of the world (or at least this woman and my friends) thank you!!!

As much as I'm glad that Andrew Tate is facing criminal charges, I think we need to address the root cause of our societal ills. Tate isn't the cause but rather a symtpom.

We really need to step back and ask ourselves why somebody so brazenly misogynistic has attracted a following of millions and has become a role model to teenage boys especially.

I can explain exactly why, because we've created a growing social underclass of men who cannot earn a living, cannot find a romantic partner, cannot live fulfilling lives, and anybody who they turn to either mocks them, fobs them off, or give them false platitudes, which is why they turn to toxic masculinity and the Manosphere for guidance.

The reality is that inceldom is largely an economic issue that has resulted from decades of stagnated wages which have disproportionately affected men, because despite our best efforts to create an egalitarian society, we still overwhelmingly find men unattractive if they are not the strong hunter-gatherers and providers that our biology has been conditioned over millions of years to find physically attractive. Our biology has not caught up to the millennia of societal progress we've made because evolution is a much slower process.

Hmm, I don't think I'm with you. You say men are incels because they're poor and can't find a girl. From what I've seen, they can't find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off. If also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women, because every study I've seen says the wage gap has stayed the same or widened in the last few years. I know many, many men who aren't the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren't assholes.
- It goes far beyond just being poor. Wealth inequality is just one piece of the puzzle, albeit a massive one.
  There are also a lot of other factors like how social media is poisoning mental health, physical and mental healthcare being expensive enough to outright bankrupt many families, the fact that rather than address these issues or limit gun ownership, American lawmakers instead think putting children through active shooter drills and locking down schools with more security than an international airport is the solution to deal with an epidemic of school shootings.
  Even among nations with relatively lax gun laws, you almost never see public shootings, let alone ones on similar levels to Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, etc
- they can’t find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off
  People aren't born with misogynistic beliefs. They also aren't taught them in school.
  also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women
  I'm not going to google search for you, but it's pretty easy to see that wage stagnation affects men more because traditionally, men are expected to be the provider for the household and women have traditionally had the option of not starting a career and just finding a man instead. I'm not saying that women are not affected, but they have an economic "out" that men generally don't have.
  I know many, many men who aren’t the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren’t assholes.
  I'm willing to bet that they also have stable jobs. Also, if you're one of them of course you'd know a bunch of other men who are similar; this says nothing about a large swath of men that the grandparent comment is referring to.
I can't agree with that. Being poor is not an excuse to be a shitbag. A lot of those guys aren't even trying to change anything, they put all the blame on corporations as if it somehow makes their behavior justified, and then spend their days on incel forums.
- They didn't say it was an excuse. They didn't defend being a shitbag. They offered an explanation. You may disagree with it, but you're not talking about the same thing here.
This is a good take. There are many men who are stuck and undersupported so they are turning to dark places. That is the issue. This was just a jackass using them for fame.
- Unfortunately it's a take that I've been shadowbanned from posting on Reddit.
  Someone probably put an automoderator filter that automatically removes my comment if it contains the word 'incel', or any other word they think is problematic.
  It's actually fucking liberating that I can more freely speak my mind on Lemmy... And this isn't even a free speech platform.
  Goes to show what a clown fiesta Reddit has become.
This sounds like a list of excuses to be a fucking shitbag. You can't make money? Don't be a bitch and get a job. IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOURSELF that is not a woman's problem. That is your problem. Is modern society too hard for you? Pretty sure humans have thousands of years of evolution dealing with actual existential threats of starvation and surviving the elements that most of humanity overcame. Now your bills are too much and it's driving you to beating the fuck out of women? Fuck off with that shit.
Fuck yeah we can do a lot better as a species, but with some actual perspective of the majority of humans time on earth we have it pretty damn peachy. Sure as fuck aren't victims of some atrocious shit that justifies any of that redpill bullshit, at least on a systemic level.
People are becoming incels because a bunch of idiots got ahold of the internet and gave themselves a name and a platform to echochamber in. That is it. It would have happened, much worse, in any other time in history if they were able to organize.
inceldom is largely an economic issue
that's such a reach. women are lagrely more economically disadvantaged, specially when you consider that men are paid more, are not straved off of promotions due to their gender, are not discriminated because they are women. rich/well-off incels exist, they are and will remain incels despite their financial status or attractiveness. they are incels because of their misogynistic beliefs (among other horrible traits).
the internet and tate has amplified the voices of this community since they are able to congregate anonymously and with no repercussions.
Sorry, I'm currently one of those dudes who doesn't have a romantic partner and doesn't live what others would call a "fulfilling life". I haven't fucking decided that Andrew Tate or any of a thousand others are the guiding star of my life, nor do I feel I ever will. This idea of "society's to blame for incels" is pretty bad even on its face - most of these guys are told by these influencers (or their cultists) that they deserve not only a happy, prosperous life, but they shouldn't even have to actively work for it. According to this philosophy, they shouldn't have to go out and actively seek romance, women should be flocking to them in droves. As this does not happen, something must be fundamentally wrong with society - which is why a lot of these types also wind up spouting fascist rhetoric, and eventually fall into white supremacist pablum.
because we’ve created
"we"? no, not "we". men who feel entitled to being treated like they're god's gift to life by virtue of having a dick have created it for themselves.
These men choose to turn to toxic masculinity and to the manosphere (an echo chamber of toxic masculinity) rather than choose therapy and self-improvement because they are too selfish and lazy to work on improving themselves and their lives. They want a rich fulfilling life handed to them on a platter and fawned on by adoring slaves who they should be free to abuse at will.
They choose to be incels because they feel they can get away with treating women as lesser beings. And when they face any consequence for their actions they paint themelves as victims belonging to a social underclass, when they're anything but.
It's an economic issue in as much as this is what capitalism promotes and exemplifies. Psychopaths and sociopaths rise to the top. And all the other haters fangirl over them for doing it.
Some of the happiest most satisfied people I know are poor. They just don't have the massive entitlement to other people's things.
- Oh yeah, they absolutely are losers and the manosphere is not to be trusted. Incel, red pill, MGTOW, etc rhetoric is dangerous.
  I talk to my male friends all the time about difficulties I’m having I don’t need to blame women for them.
  Some don't even have that support group.
- Nah man incels are just losers and Tate is just the same.
  I don't think brushing away the issue like this is particularly helpful. It's a statistical truth that men are over-represented in a long list of bad settings, from victims of violence, to drug abuse, suicide, homelessness, unemployment etc. Additionally, the past ≈30 years there has been a trend of a decreasing proportion of men having several partners throughout their life, and an increasing proportion of men never finding a long-time partner. And men are to a larger and larger degree under-performing in education compared to women.
  Furthermore, like you say: Everyone is struggling. The struggling disproportionally is disproportionally difficult to handle for those that are over-represented in the statistics mentioned above.
  I definitely think we have a societal issue where certain men are being marginalised, or at least put in a position where it is understandable that they feel marginalised. We know very well that humans in general, when they feel pushed into a corner, tend to lash out in some way.
  What I'm saying doesn't defend their actions, but provides an explanatory model for why they are acting the way they are. Because if nothing else, we as a society need to do something about the increasing number of men acting that way.
  Nah man incels are just losers and Tate is just the same.
  This does not serve as an explanation for why these people are acting as losers, or what we can do about it, and is thus not a very constructive standpoint to take.

Is there a /r/upliftingnews equivalent here yet?

And to think, all of this happened because he got owned by Greta Thunberg.

I believe that was just coincidental timing. Not complaining though, because it made it all much more exciting.
- It wasn't just timing. His reply to Greta was what led the Romanian police to know he was in Romania and close to which pizza restaurant.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of trash.

Good. Fuck that guy.

I’m happy to be reading about this on a 3rd party app for a growing redddit alternative. Feels right.

I had never heard of this guy before the most recent debacle and I'm on the internet a lot. So at least it's good that his reach wasn't really as far as it might seem.
- It's easy to get stuck in a filter bubble though.

Lollll I absolutely love that it was because of Greta Thunberg that he got caught.

Here's a quote from an article:

On Tuesday, Mr Tate, a former kickboxer and influencer who has been banned from numerous social media services for violent and misogynistic rhetoric, tagged Ms Thunberg in a Twitter post, asking for her email address so he could “send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions”.

The tweet also featured Mr Tate filling up a gas-guzzling Bugatti supercar at the pump.

The following day, the climate activist responded with a tweet of her own, replying, “Yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com.”

He then took a picture of himself with a pizza box, which then led the Romanian authorities to where he was hiding, and was arrested.

Fuck yeah.

TIL getalive.com actually exits and is one funniest sites i've ever seen.
- I hope people managing that domain can give Greta the email address.

I'll celebrate at conviction.

One more grifter preying on young men has fallen. This is a nice day.

Also 666th upvote

Preying on young women and young men. Probably being enslaved and trafficked is worse for the women than it was for the young men dragged into his sphere of influence. Thoroughly evil man.

They say that if you can't say something good, you shouldn't say anything at all.

Andrew Tate has been indicted and will face trial on rape and human trafficking charges in Romania. Good.

Andrew Tate? Let me tell you, he hasn't hurt a fly, not one bit. Why on earth would they be charging him with crimes? It's clear as day, folks, this is just another attempt by those liberals to punish people for being good in society. They can't stand it when someone stands up for what's right. Sad! We need to fight against this injustice, folks, and support those who are making a positive impact. Together, we will triumph over these baseless accusations. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2024 #TateIsInnocent

This reads way too clearly to be trump. Needs more run on sentences, narcissism and at least one totally bizarre non sequitur.
You can tell this isn't Trump because of the use of proper spelling and grammar. I'd toss in a few run on sentences to really make it look real.
Take your corny garbage back to reddit with the rest of the bots.
I thought it was a nice imitation and took it to mean the opposite of what the commenter wrote.
To people downvoting: IT'S SATIRE, COME ON, USE YOUR NOGGIN'
- We know it's satire. We just find Trump so unfunny and so problematic that even satire of him is annoying.
- This is a news community, not a lousy impersonationators community. It's the wrong audience for this joke. I don't want news posts filled with bad comedians, so of course I'm going to vote against this. Trump gets too much attention as is, why would I want him to get even more attention on articles that don't even have anything to do with him?
- Yeah so that‘s how the donald started out. Trump satire isn‘t funny to me and irrelevant, so I‘ll vote how I want.
- jokes like this are how he rose to power. best to ignore him and treat him like the annoying terrible person he is.
- No.
Oh god are we getting our first novelty accounts on the Fediverse?
First I thought what the hell man? Then I saw that I am replying to the almighty himself!!!
You should have added a "Pussy grabbing" reference for the coup de grace.

Yay

Well, well. If it isn't the consequences of their shitty, abhorrent behaviour! Here's hoping to a long, long prison sentence for these fucks.

rip bozo

Hopefully he gets convicted. The evidence is ostensibly damning, but sleazeballs like him always seem to manage to avoid real repercussions.

So long, Top G... lmao

Top Grifter
In the jail he'll be a bottom G from now on.

Oh hi, good news this Tuesday morning... mister "above the law" finds himself indicted and on trial for the stuff he admitted doing in recordings. 385 million seized for being a human trafficking piece of shit? It's a start.

Always nice to see people face consequences for their terrible actions.

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow! It's rare that a person's achievements are repaid with the commensurate rewards... but this proves that such miracles do happen every now and then.