Fascists are always just following orders
Fascists are always just following orders
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/28232681
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can we please keep this AI shit out of here
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Don't get upset about AI. It was just following orders.
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Seriously, I'm here to look at artists' work, not computer generated slop
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AI generated?
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I think this community needs to have a conversation about whether we keep allowing AI comics.
It’s a no for me but I’m willing to vote.
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There's a vote under every post. Feel free.
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Nice “gotcha”. But you know what I meant. We should discuss adding it as a sub rule - so we can report it for AI as they come.
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When I've got 10,000 AI generated candidates on my ballot and its my job to pick out the half dozen real submissions, it feels like there's a structural problem with the election's process.
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I would vote "no" as well, but I imagine they're here to stay.
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Did AI make this? It looks like it
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Why is that man pulling her braid lol
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I don't want to assume their gender but that's a man, baby!
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Must've trained the AI on Wheel of Time.
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…he’s just following orders
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Nah dw the mom just has epidermodysplasia verruciformis
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Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?
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Because sometimes people have an idea for a relevant comic, but not the artistic ability to draw it. So, they use AI tools to create the artwork.
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Damn, you're right, artistic talent is totally required to make webcomics.
I apologise for my glib response. I don't doubt your sincerity. Things may change in the future. It's just that in this particular historical moment AI has as much to do with democratising talent as nfts did with supporting solo artists/creators.
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I am sorry. This combination is no longer allowed. Internet gatekeepers have spoken.
edit: obligatory /s?
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AI shitposting is effortless.
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the funny thing is that that's the icon for adobe illustrator.
inkscape ftw
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Lol I had no idea. Works both ways tbh
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This is why I custom order all my memes direct from people on Fiverr
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AI-generated. Thanks for training my neural network (brain) to identify more AI-generated images (slop).
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What tipped ya off the weird faces or the woman with her child clone?
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All the comics from the new GPT have the same style, you don't even need to pixel peep. They just all have the same art style.
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Extra finger as well.Damn this one was good though, would've missed it if I hadn't checked the comments and taken a closer look.Edit: I can't count apparently. If anything there are missing fingers.
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The font (a little bit weird-looking) and the texturing of the image (way too overdone). From that, I noticed the comic lacked a signature or watermark from a comic author, then I noticed that the characters are all just gazing into the distance.
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First hint was the weird fist in the first panel. Why would you clench your hand in front of someone's arm if you're trying to restrain them? It almost looks like he's holding the guy by the hair.
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Just following orders...
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The good news for (most of) the pieces of shit from the 1830s and 1940s is that there wasn't a tool for us to use to name and shame.
However for this generation of fascist scum there is now the internet. And it should be used to track down and tackle the ICE scumbags. Fuck them.Edit: Reee, AI, blah blah because, yes, that's the most horrible thing about this post. Definitely not the kidnapping and fascism. Fuck sake.
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I approve the message! The images are just reinforcement so I don't really care if it's AI. Not everyone can draw.
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It's an inherent problem of the human condition, for some reason our own moral compass becomes dysfunctional once the authority and therefore responsibility is with someone else. It's the reason the Stanford Prison Experiment went so wrong once the professor took influence; we're not inherently evil, we (as a species) are just drawn to the current ruleset as dictated by our social group or idol of choice, especially if we get convinced it's somehow necessary.
Obviously not trying to abolish any guilt here, people are still responsible for what they're doing.
In the end we need way higher quality of education globally, better social security, rethink society (don't have children be on their own and make parents constantly burned out, god damn it) as well as political systems so they are designed to prevent any definition of an in- and out-group. Protections for who, what, where and how people are are great, and stuff like Germany's Article 1 is a good start, but it needs to go way further.
We need to design an environment that allows us humans to become more than we currently are if we ever want to get out of this cycle.
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Not to burst your bubble but
Stanford Prison Experiment
was a total hoax:
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It confirms claims Zimbardo pushed participants towards the results he wanted, something he has disputed.
That's actually what I referred to, although I indeed didn't know know about the other statements by participants. Only knew about someone in Stanford digging through the files and realizing Zimbardo fucked everything up by pushing towards a certain outcome. Mmh…
I still stand with my statements about what we should do better though.
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What's more annoying? That people have the ability to generate content with AI, or that everyone on lemmy constantly complains about it?
You're banging your heads against walls over and over. Stop. Shut up.
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Lads here me out on this it might sound a bit harsh but I'm starting to think them fasists are cunts
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This didn't ring my AI bells at all. Oof…
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Same here. What are the signs here?
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I left another comment down there somewhere, but here's something
The most obvious tell to me is that it looks more like a filter than a real drawing. So far all AI drawings look like this. There's also details that I was able to pick apart:
- Why did the artist choose to draw everyone gazing into nowhere in particular, and not for example at each other?
- People have detailed faces, but their expressions seem unrelated to the message. Same applies to positions.
- The concentration camp victim is especially scared of something offscreen while the SS officer holding his shoulders, as if he was protecting this small man..?
- The artist chose to very clearly display the sheriff holding his fist in front of the native american, but for no apparent reason. Same for ICE.
- Why did the artist choose to use three victims in the last panel, making the composition weird and unbalanced.
Maybe it's because of different amounts of exposure to AI stuff or something, but the only feeling I can get from this style and the empty stares is that something's just off, and I hate looking at this so much.
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Look at the Nazi insignia. It's all AI garbled noise.
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That boy… oh boy… his eyes.
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It was the eyes that gave it away for me. They look, just, wrong.
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Fascist: "We're just following orders."
Liberal: "Court orders?"
Fascist: "Shut up and get in the van."
Liberal: "Okay, but I'm going to post a frowny face about it on Twitter."
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Saw this on a thread a while back:
The funny and sad thing is I think the original panel was showing American imperialism against historical Nazi facism (soldier attire), so it was very easily repurposed for the next ethnostate of Israel with the Nazi flag being redundant against the very obvious German soldier.
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AI slop aside, I'm not even sure most of the people who slaughtered natives were just following orders (in many cases there probably weren't even orders)... Manifest Destiny was pretty ingrained at the time.
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if you work for ICE I think your views already align with theirs
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Slop. Stop this shit.
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This is AI?
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Yes. Look at the nazi in the middle. He only has three fingers. Generally the anatomy is illogical in all three panels. Arms disappearing into nothing hands holding on to nothing eyes melting into nonsense on several characters. This wasn't drawing by a human.
It is pretty ironic to me that someone is essentially trying to criticize the people who are currently ruining the world by using the very tech they developed to help them ruin the world. But whatever, I guess. It's convenient and that outweighs artistic integrity, cultural integrity and care for the environment. Let's just all mindlessly use these things that annihilates our planet at an even faster rate while the people whose hard work this glorified image generator steals from is being butchered and made worthless. It's good for the culture to have it become soulless slop.
The fucking irony of them to then make an image that shows complicity and irresponsibility of the people who just did what everyone did at the time instead of resisting is a very funny meta layer that I don't think they intended. I would rather they drew that meme themselves. Stick figures if they couldn't draw. It doesn't matter. The point would come across still, but no. They just had to go use a theft machine because why actually bother when you can just press a button? Why put effort into anything anymore? Why learn a craft when the AI can do all of that for you? Viva la revolución!
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Wonky-ass gen slop. It looks terrible.
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They should all have families
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ICE: "I'm following orders and also love doing this shit!"
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I see everyone has addressed the AI slop part of it, but it also doesn't need the labels at the bottom. Let's not treat the readers like they're stupid.
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Except just following orders can no longer keep you from getting convicted.
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The entire republican party leadership begs to differ.
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Facts.
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Why isn't the SS guy saying, "ich folge nur Befehlen" I think he might be a spy
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Oh damn. Well let me live in your house rent free. Yall pay for my food and anything I want then
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Maybe we wouldn't have millions of people trying to live here if we hadn't systematically destabilized half of latin america. We're reaping what we've sown.
Fuck off with this fascist apologia.
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Yeah go cry those words to your mommy, loser.
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What? Who's trying you love in your house?
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Dont love the AI slop but appreciate the message
Are the taking Lemmy as revenue away from artists? Are they selling this commercially? Should they have commissioned a perfessional artist for your free meme?
Something about trying to appeal to human emotions with robot creations doesn't sit right sith me.
No, I just think it looks like shit