I'm gonna be really pissed if my christofascist parents were right
I'm gonna be really pissed if my christofascist parents were right
I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.
Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.
If they were right I'm gonna have some 'splainin to do.
Dammit.
Just sayin. These fools are walking right into it.
Btw, what made you think we weren't living in the end times?
Edit: Ok i might have to do some explaining.
The way i understand it, we're living in exactly the time period (1800 - 2050?) where people basically figure out all about technology. That puts us in the very special position that we can choose what the future looks like. Such a situation has never been there before. In some sense, god lives on the inside; it's us who will permanently transform the world into its final state. That is the "second coming" and "end times".
Don't confuse coincidence for causation. For hundreds of years, people have been harping about the " end times." No 'splaining needed friend.
Self fulfilling prophecy. It's a doomsday cult and they're trying to bring the end times instead of waiting
When they said we're living in the end times it wasn't a prediction it was a threat
If you predict it's the end times every day for a thousand years, eventually you'll get it right.
It's more that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"The world will hate you," so you're antisocial and hateful in preparation. They do hate me! It's all true!
"There will be wars and rumors of wars," so you vote for the defense hawks supporting the military complex. So many wars! It's all true!
"They won't even tolerate your views, they'll try to outlaw it!" So you try to ban them first. It's all true!
Why protect the temporary environment when you have eternal paradise waiting? Why do ANYTHING meaningful here when you have eternal paradise waiting.
tl;dr: Death cult. Projection.
If you spend your life wanting to see the end, eventually you will.
Not only that, but these bad things HAVE TO HAPPEN before the good things can come to pass. That's the order of operations. Which leads to seeing the bad things and thinking, "YES!!! It's haaaappeniiiiing!!!"
You literally welcome disaster, because it proves you right, rather than working to prevent it.
Yes it's a death cult and we're locked in the basement.
yeah but its all going downhill because of people like them. christians are complicit in the demise of democracy.
theyre causing their own doom so they can point it out. if they didnt exist, the world would be a better place.
theres a great meme somewhere where the rapture happens and the world is an amazingly better place for it.
If you have the time, I highly recommend the book “American Apocalypse” by Matthew Avery Sutton. Really digs into the history of this whole thing and helps you realize just HOW MUCH of this shit is truly self fulfilling prophecy. I’m currently working up the courage to gift it to my highly evangelical family and forcing them to read it.
Self fulfilling prophecy
Exactly what I came here to say.
“The imaginary is what tends to become real.”
It's been the "End Times" for the last 2000 years. They were full of shit then and they're full of shit now.
Their whole death cult is predicated on the world ending in a violent fiery ocean of blood so that they, the only good people who won't be damned to a burning torturous eternal punishment, will ascend to a paradise of everlasting Jonestown. It's sheer insanity. Malicious, cruel, psychopathic insanity.
TBF this is the first time in 2000 years when we have billions of people warming up the planet and studies by actual scientists saying if we continue the way we are we have at most a couple of centuries left. Plenty of studies saying that when you know where to look.
When a denomination lies about when the apocalypse is coming they can gain more followers than they lose, look at all the offshoot denominations of Adventists/Millerites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
If they were right it's because of their ideology. They are the ones denying climate change and the ones supporting Trump. They aren't prophets, they are the problem.
I’ve read their book several times. Take some comfort from the fact that if they are right, all of them are on the side they thought they were against.
You must have skipped the Old Testament
Lol..i’ll admit that i’ve skipped over more of it. it’s a lot more tedious than the new one. i have my own path though and don’t need no stinking books. my god encompasses all gods and everything. no one can think of a greater god because mine will just eclipse it. it also doesn’t require worship because it has much more self-confidence than those little pussy gods.
I highly recommend the song Apocalypticism by Moon Walker
Apocalypticism - a doctrine concerning an imminent end of the world and an ensuing general resurrection and final judgment
I love the word christofascist. I‘ll try to use it more from now on.
The oldest human writings are lost to history. But we can be assured that they bitterly complained about the young generation and predicted that the world would end soon.
Sooner or later, one of the kooks will be right by coincidence.
America isn't the world. It's just a regime that will fall because of shortsightedness. If your Christian parents only think of the world as "America", then I don't think you owe them anything?
I'm going to make a point here, and I hope I am wrong, but I don't think I am. If America falls apart, I think it will be the first one, not the only one. The influence America exerts on much of the rest of the world is huge, and the pressures on many other nations to follow any collapse with one of their own would be difficult to stop. Not just influence culturally, but economically, including but not limited to agriculture. Removing the agricultural influence provided by America alone will be devastating for much of the world (including non-agrarian parts America).
Very decent chance America just nukes everyone on the way out out of spite
If the entire world dies for any of those reasons, it’s humanity’s own damn fault. There will be nothing supernatural about it. You won’t owe anyone any kind of explanation.
Yeah... That's not what "right" means.
Well, they're not right if they were harping on "Jesus is coming again!" but other than that, I too might owe Mom & Dad and apology.
More clearly than ever in my life, I can see the end — the end of me, the end of America (whatever that really was), and the end of everything. It's all so clear, it's difficult to see anything else, even when I turn away.
Christofascists are wrong because they don't recognize themselves and their cult leaders as a primary cause of doomsday, but rather they promote some poorly interpreted, wacky hallucinations from a dude in a desert 2000 years ago.