Greater Sydney [Blue Mountains] council bans ‘revealing swimwear’ sparking debate about double standards
Greater Sydney [Blue Mountains] council bans ‘revealing swimwear’ sparking debate about double standards
One expert says women’s bodies and attire have long been a source for public debate in a way that doesn’t happen with men
People are talking about a double standard, but if I'm honest, I don't really think it is. There's a real double standard especially with respect to women's upper bodies, and that bit tacked onto the end about a man from the Gold Coast is absolutely beyond the pale. But if there's a rule against nudity, presumably there has to be a line somewhere where technically someone might be wearing clothes, but it's not realistically enough to count?
Personally, I'd be fine with just allowing nudity and normalising it...at least at pools. That would take away all its power. But so long as we don't live in that world, it seems reasonable to say that clothing so skinny it gets hidden by the bum cheeks is not within acceptable limits.
There seem to be some people trying to turn this into a US-style argument about women's clothing in offices or at schools. But there's a big difference between a bit of leg above the knee, or exposed shoulders, and the bum crack, I feel. It's equally inappropriate (or appropriate) for men and for women.
Man, back in the 50s or whatever, going to the pool nude was just the norm. Why can't we just swim in the nude if we want?
But I will just quickly add...though I haven't been to any of the pools in question, I do think this is almost certainly making a mountain out of a molehill. It probably just didn't need to be said.
If this is what the council are spending their time on , I'm sure all the issues of the Blue Mountains are solved!
Agreed if your bottoms could work as a functional eyepatch they aren't appropriate for public beaches.
Personally, I’d be fine with just allowing nudity and normalising it…at least at pools. That would take away all its power.
You think if all the women in the pool are naked that boobs will no longer have any appeal? This is complete nonsense.
I definitely get the sense that Germans are a lot less prudish than anglophones are, and they don't even have nudity allowed at all pools...just at a few relatively-easily-accessible public spaces.
It's not about "no longer having any appeal", it's about taking away the shock value.
I've been to clothing optional festivals and for the first day you look, then afterwards it just becomes the norm and you barely even notice.
they allow speedos (us slang for man's bikini bottom / banana hammock)? then anything should be available for women.
It sounds like they allow (and prohibit) Speedos and women's bikini bottoms of similar cuts, ie, briefs but not thongs.
The rule states "males and females".
Oh no, a human body!
Do people even wear thongs and g-strings to the pool?
Even if it didn't start as a thong, if the material is worn or your doing breast stroke/frog kick, its gonna end up that way.
If you can see someone's butthole in the pool, you are way too close. Just be thankful that its a clean butthole :D
But Speedos are fine, right? Because men?
From the sounds of it, typical bikini briefs are allowed, only g-strings are not. Of the styles shown in this image from Wikipedia, only the one labelled "thong" would be banned, I think. Men's speedos are usually most similar to the one labelled "bikini".
So didn't read and just opened up your mouth. 👍 Perfection.
Of course I read the article. But the article adds nothing to the confusion around what is and isn't too revealing.
Where in that line? Who makes that call? Why is this even an issue? I'm saying a pair of speedos is more revealing than a bikini, but they're fine.
There have been several occasions where governments have tried to dictate specifically to women about what they can wear while swimming in public. This reads like more of the same. Nobody complains about what men wear in public, only and always women.
The arguments always seem to come from people who are sexualising women, usually men 'who don't feel comfortable'. That's a you problem, mate. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
No one wants to see your asshole at the pool. If that's too much for you to handle just stay home
If you don't want to see other people's bodies, don't look. Or go to a private pool.
It all changes over time. What was considered revealing in the 1900s is regarded as ridiculous.
And fashions in swimwear change. High cut, low cut, cover this a bit more, show a bit more of that......
You know how to fix it? Just stop being a perve. Nobody is forcing you to look at anything.
I predict that the moment men start showing up wearing thongs, nobody will have a problem with this rule.
You mean g strings as thongs in Australian english are what Americans call flip-flops.
You are correct.
Butt floss, as it were.
I mean I saw wayy more than I ever wanted to of tony abbott but that passed without fucking comment
Nobody wants to see your chocolate starfish trying to hide behind some butt floss. So I'm going to go with "no".
Last time I went to the pool with the family, my sister was wearing one of those g-string style bottoms. I fully support this ban.
When every fucking little thing is a transgression on your rights nothing is.
